Thoughts On A Few Characters (both individual and generic)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Jul 11 18:50:07 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69483
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "D.G."
<dgwhiteis at h...> wrote:
> 1. Giants
>
> It had always been my impression that giants were a relatively
> intelligent and civilized species, even if somewhat warrior-like
> and "primtive" (by Wizard standards) in the way they structured
their society. Early on in OoP, this seems to be validated -- they
have chieftans who demand obeisance, they definitely have a
strictly- established social order. And, remember, they can be
charming/sexy enough that humans occasionally develop
crushes on them and have affairs (and/or marriages) with them.
>
> Then along comes Grawp --a drooling, barely-articulate brute
who seems all too much like King Kong in chains. Is THIS the
kind of thing that Hagrid's mother (and, unless I'm
mis-remembering something, Olympe's mother as well)
actually MARRIED!? Ewww!!!!!
> Continuity problem here for JKR -- or am I missing something?
>
We don't know which side of the family Olympe's giant blood
came from. Hagrid did ask her though, so perhaps it's
significant. We haven't met any of the females yet. For all we
know, Giants could be dimorphic, like peafowl, or maybe more
like black widow spiders. <g> Possibly the females are quite
attractive, or can make themselves appear so. Giants must have
some magic in them, or why would the WW need to hide them
from Muggles?
I'm glad *somebody* else has noticed that Giants are a sentient
species. JKR is up to her usual tricks here. Grawp is not another
one of Hagrid's misguided experiments in anthropomorphism.
Grawp wears clothes, can feed and clean up after himself (he,
unlike Hedwig, is not found sitting in his own waste) and is
capable of learning a foreign language, which would seem to
make him more intelligent than Fudge on the evidence.
Hagrid did *not* ask HRH to "take care of" Grawp. He asked
them to "look after" him. Hagrid explained he only meant
continue teaching him English, if, and only if, Hagrid
was driven away from Hogwarts. It may have been dreadfully
misguided of Hagrid to bring Grawp to Hogwarts, on a par with
Hermione's efforts to free House Elves against their will, but
once there, I don't think it was out of line for Hagrid to make
provision for him. And really, who does Hagrid know, aside from
Dumbledore, who's more capable of dealing with a Giant than
Harry?
There's a deliberate parallel being set up with Harry's reluctant
agreement to help civilize Grawp and Petunia's reluctant
willingness to take in Harry. "Grudgingly, furiously, unwillingly,
bitterly," indeed. I wonder where JKR is going to go with it?
Pippin
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