Slytherin-Ever So Evil after all?
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Jul 11 21:46:50 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69523
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett"
<bard7696 at a...> wrote:
> Jasmyn:
>
> >
> > Tom 'Lord V' Riddle was not a pureblood and was in
Slytherin. I
> >think the hat doesn't care if you are pureblood, but is looking
for
> >other 'Slytherin qualities'. It may be that the 'good Slytherins'
> >that people know must exist are in fact the ones who are not
> purebloods and are not part of Malfoy's circle.
>
> 1) We aren't 100.00 percent sure V-Mort was a Slyth.
>
> 2) Even if he was, we're talking about a kid directly descended
from Salazar AND who had rejected all things Muggle. Sounds
close enough to pureblood for government work.
> 3) Until the good Slyths are written in canon, they don't exist.
> There is no requirement that they have to exist. Again, the
argument
> always seems to come back to, "but, they HAVE to exist."
>
> And I say: Says who?
Well, the Hat says so. It says Hogwarts must unite to meet the
external deadly foe. That would seem to indicate that the foe
within is not the same as the foe outside. Slytherin left the school
but his House didn't. Some, like Sirius's family, weren't prepared
to go as far as Salazar himself. I'm sure that among the
unworthy whom Slytherin intended his heir to drive out of the
school were the successors of those in his own House who
didn't support him.
>From what we saw of the tapestry, there are probably thousands
of descendants of Salazar, wizard and Muggle both, but they
don't exist for pedigree purposes because their ancestry
can't be traced. Tom shouldn't qualify either--but who says
bigots are logical? Rowling's whole point is that bigotry is
illogical. Just as there's no consistent definition of halfblood,
there's no consistent definition of pureblood either.
Secondly, Slytherins aren't terribly wedded to principles, even
their own. Any means to achieve their ends, remember? If that
means overlooking a blemish or two on the family tree, or putting
up with do-gooder notions about equality--what's to stop them?
Harry hasn't started looking for good Slytherins yet. The
narrative arc which begins with the Hat's song threatens the
ultimate destruction of Hogwarts unless the school unites. That
means it can't play out till book 7. In book 5 it's merely necessary
for JKR to show us how deeply the houses are divided. She's
not going to make it easy for Harry to get over his engrained
distrust of Slytherin House and she's not going to have the
Slytherins make it easy for him either.
Like Ginny's feistiness, and Sirius's impending death, once JKR
has stopped pulling the narrative wool over our eyes, I expect
we'll be able to find hints of good Slytherins all over the place.
Pippin
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