Why Hermoine trusts Snape

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 69652


> > 
> > I'll get over it when all of sudden, the Snapeologists find 
> > the "Snivellus" stuff funny.
> 
> You don't have to get over it all you want.  We were just saying 
> Hermione got the good sense to get over it. 

Good, one more proof that a 14-year-old is more mature than her 
Potions Master. As if I needed any more. :)

At least Snape only had to worry about his classmates. Hermione fends 
off insults from teachers without a second thought. Maybe Snape 
should take Occlumency lessons from her?
 
> > Because that is apparently the standard. It's apparently on the 
> > victim to get over it, so what is Snape's excuse again, for 
> carrying 
> > this around for years?
> 
> No one is excusing for Snape. Geez....
> Just because you have huge personal issue with Snape and can't get 
> over every single nasty thing he did in the book doesn't mean 
there's  some sort of huge theory behind Hermione's trust. It's IN 
her character to not let such "no big deal" thing to cloud her 
judgement. (Again, it's "no big deal" for her, the character). That's 
just how Hermione acts. 
And people were just simply explaining that to you. I 
> don't see how that's an excusing Snape's behavior at all.

Oh, c'mon, this is a complete attempt at mitigating circumstances.

"Hermione got over it. We should to."

"You're making Hermione out to be the victim when she's not."

"We thought it was funny."

"Whiny people are making a bigger deal out of this."

The clear message is that, so long as the victim holds no grudge, the 
offense is not as bad.

Tell me, is the reverse true? Because Snape won't let anything James 
and Sirius did go, does that make their offenses worse?


> Don't you think you're getting a bit defensive about this whole 
issue? Always accusing people "justifying/excusing" Snape's behavior 
when nobody is really doing it in this thread? Most people are merely 
> pointing out a simple fact in the canon in regard of Hermione's 
> character. 

I concede that "excuse" is the improper word. Mitigate and justify, 
however, I stand behind. 


 > And I don't want to hear any more about Hagrid mocking Draco, Fred 
> > and George stepping on faces, or any of the other stuff that used 
> to  create all kinds of teeth-gnashing out here.
> 
> So it's alright for you to constantly re 
peat "horrible/evil/worthless" Snape is (and borderline attacking 
> Snape's fans as a matter of fact) over and over again but not 
others who have their opinions on other characters?  
 

Not when such blatant double-standards are used, no. The standard, as 
I said, is that if the victim gets over it, 

Don't get so defensive. I was just pointing out the rules of the game 
now.

> > Because it's on the victim to get over it. Since Hermione reacted 
> > maturely to it, actually, with more maturity than Snape has shown 
> the  entire five books, then it must have been OK.
> 
> Nobody is saying it's on the victim to get over it. It's the fact 
> that Hermione, the allege victim, get over the matter herself.


She is not an "alleged" victim. She was a victim. Period. The offense 
happened and one person did it to another. How she reacted to it is 
immaterial.

Victim is not a connotation of whiny helplessness, as so many self-
help books would have us believe (or, allege, if you prefer). It is a 
statement of fact. A person who has had a wrong done to him or her is 
a victim of that wrong.

She chose to get over it. I still hold that there could be other 
reasons for that besides her strength of character.

And my theory -- which incidentally was used to suggest that perhaps 
Snape went to Hermione first and apologized and let her know what the 
deal was; in other words, suggesting he redeemed himself -- still 
holds merit.

do you have to get all upset over people pointing out a simple fact? 
You can over-victimize her and hate Snape anyway you want, 

Whew. That's a relief.

>apparently canon Hermione isn't a "scar-for-life" crybaby and 
>neither would she let a "no big deal" thing to cloud her judgement.

Yep, she sure reacted well to Ron calling her a nightmare. Loved it 
when she reacted to Trelawney telling her she was no good at 
Divination by quitting. Cyborg!Hermione certainly raised her head in 
OoP, but she has shown emotion before.

And again, none of this mitigates a teacher committing such an act of 
callousness.

I certainly wouldn't have expected Hermione to carry it around for 
decades.

She's not Snape, after all.

Darrin