[HPforGrownups] Re: Why Hermoine trusts Snape
Random
random832 at rcbooks.org
Sun Jul 13 02:01:26 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 69794
On Saturday, Jul 12, 2003, at 18:59 America/Indianapolis, Shaun Hately
wrote:
> Two issues here - first of all, the idea that Snape credits Hermione
> with 'more strength of character' than posters here do.
>
> I don't think that stands up at all.
>
> Firstly, we have no indication whatsoever that Snape has any type of
> insight into Hermione's character. Is it possible? Anything is possible
> - but it'd be an assumption based on virtually no evidence, IMHO.
careful, there... you're falling into a trap -- you're dismissing
evidence for something based solely on the fact that you don't believe
that something. Isn't that just what the ministry keeps doing regarding
voldemort's return vis-a-vis potter's claims (assume he's insane
because he thinks voldemort's back, whereas if we were to not assume
he's insane his testimony would be perfectly acceptable evidence of the
return. we can't have _that_ because we KNOW voldemort's gone forever.)
the only possible "evidence" is internal consistency... if we allow
ourselves to think he MIGHT have some insight, the _fact_ that he does
that, appearing to in fact credit her with more strength of character,
is _itself_ an indication. The fact that you think he would do that
without thinking she could take it is only valid if you assume ahead of
time that he doesn't think that, which is the only way the incident can
be evidence for that.
> Secondly, even if Snape did have a reasonable insight into Hermione,
> somehow, we then have to assume, he considered that insight, and then
> deliberately decided to risk hurting her - at best, his insight could
> tell him that she was unlikely to be harmed - not that she certainly
> wouldn't be. He'd be taking a calculated risk with her state of mind -
> and I don't think that's something he should be gambling with, without
> a
> *very* good reason.
When the opposite side of the risk is blowing his cover, which he might
(reasonably, even if you wouldn't agree) consider being much _worse_
than hurting someone emotionally
> Thirdly, we, the readers, probably have more reason than Snape to have
> an insight into Hermione's character. I'd say most of us would 'know'
> Hermione better than Snape does, and most of us fully agree that
> Hermione is strong willed, with a very strong character. Some of us
> however, think that's irrelevant. Hermione's strength of character is
> not the issue. Snape's behaviour is the issue. The fact that she is
> strong enough not to let what he does hurt her, long term, doesn't make
> his reactions any less wrong.
unless, and you're again rejecting this out of hand, he believes it
_won't_ hurt her. And, remember, it was in front of a class made half
of slytherins, it's perfectly reasonable to take that risk to avoid
blowing his cover. Imagine: Draco owls home to Lucius, "Oh, and today i
was a bit surprised when Snape seemed to actually care about that
mudblood Granger."
--Random832
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