Hagrid goes far, far away

[zebco606]

No: HPFGUIDX 69927

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hickengruendler" 
<hickengruendler at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zebco606" <zebco606 at y...> 
> wrote:
>  
> > Dorothy
> > Who thinks Grawp saving Hermione and Harry in the Dark Forest is 
a 
> > portent, and acknowledges that it wouldn't have happened if they 
> had 
> > not been introduced to Grawp. 
> > > ************************************************
> 
> Yes, but Hagrid couldn't have known this. During their first 
meeting 
> Grawp nearly killed Hermione, and Aragog's breed nearly ate Harry 
and 
> Ron. Hagrid is also IMO entirely responsible for Buckbeaks attack 
on 
> Draco. Yes, I know Draco is a brat and he provoked Buckbeak, but 
> every grown-up should know that in a class of 13 years old kids is 
> always someone who doesn't behave.  I liked Hagrid in the 
beginning, and I still think 
> he has a good heart and is probably a good gamekeeper, but he is a 
> horrible teacher. If I were a parent of one of those kids, I would 
> try everything, that my child wouldn't have to go to Hagrid's 
lessons 
> anymore... but I will never forgive Hagrid, that he put those 
children 
> in danger again and again again.
> 
> Hickengruendler

Well, we're not going to convert one another, and I respect that, 
but just one last (I hope I'm going to have the self control to 
stick to that) defense and I'll stop.

Read back over classes in Herbology. "the venomous tantacula is 
teething" Snape's potion class, in fact all of CoS ( they could have 
closed the school). The first flying lesson, the Quidditch games, 
the dueling club, the list goes on and on...Hogwarts is a dangerous 
place, one that we may have trouble relating to in our safety 
concious and litigation happy world.

If taken in this context, rather than our own, Hagrid seems more the 
amusing character I think he is intended to be

Using Malfoy's injury by the hippogriff is not, for me at least, a 
very good example for your point. Hagrid had already warned the 
sudents of the dangers. Malfoy suffered the consequences of his own 
actions. It was his arrogance that caused the accident, and on 
rereading the passage it seems impossible to me that he was not 
trying to goad just such an incident. 

The magical world itself is fraught with dangers. It is Hogwarts' 
job to prepare the students for this. 

Otherwise, well we can let Umbridge come back with a nice, Ministry 
approved syllabus for all of us. 

Dorothy