Unresolved issues in HP and the Philosopher's / Sorcerer's Stone
sueeeyqbong
sue at simiant.com
Tue Jul 15 20:40:00 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 70622
Hello everyone. I've started re-reading the Harry Potter series
again, to reassess them in the light of OoP. What interested me in
particular were the clues and things which, by the end of OoP, still
weren't explained or resolved... an which might point to what's
contained in books 6 and 7. I thought it might be useful to make a
list of them, and would love it if people would add to it the things
I've missed. I know that lists of unresolved issues already exist eg
in the lexicon, but mine might be a bit different from them since I
also wanted to include things which aren't actually unresolved
mysteries, but which were just details which haven't been followed
up yet - for example names of people who might appear later in time-
honoured JKR tradition. I'll just 'do' one book per post, to keep
it simple...hope it's something which will interest people. All page
references refer to the british edition, so sorry all non-brits...I
don't own any other version. Here's the list of things for book 1 :
1) p.7 'Mrs Potter was Mrs Dursley's sister, but they hadn't met
for several years'.
When was the last time that they met? It seems as though quite a few
years elapsed between Lily and James leaving school and their having
Harry...at least six years...and therefore probably at least 7 years
between Lily and James leaving school and the time of the first
chapter of PS/SS. During this time, Voldemort was in power....How
much did Petunia know of the affairs of the wizarding world during
this time? If, by the beginning of PS/SS, they 'had not met for
several years'...'several years' could easily be construed as less
than 7 (easy to shoot this theory down, I know, but go with me...)
and so Petunia might have had contact with Lily and the wizarding
world before LP and JP's deaths. And this might be connected to
Petunia's mysterious involvement with the dementors/Dumbledore etc
at the beginning of OoP.
2) p.16 'but the house was almost destroyed' (when Hagrid got
Harry out after V's atack). Why destroyed?? Everyone has already
said all there is to be said about this in previous posts, so no
need for me to add more.
3)In chapter 1, there are TONS of mentions of all the wizards and
witches in the streets around Vernon's place of work, all
celebrating something. (Vernon assumes they're collecting for
charity...then gets angry because they don't have collecting
tins...then hears them discussing Harry and the Potters....then in
chapter 2, (p.27) the 11 year old Harry reflects on the peculiar
srangers who often bow/shake hands then disappear. This implies that
there is a sizeable magic community in Little Whinging...yet there's
never any other mention of them, and in OoP, I'm sure I remember
Harry being amazed that there was anyone magic living near him (on
discovering that Mrs Figg was magic).
4) p.45, Hagrid says (discussing why Voldemort went after Harry's
parents') 'maybe he thought he could persuade them, maybe he wanted
them out of the way'. Evidently Hagrid doesn't know of the
prophecy, or any other reason why V targeted the Potters. And yet
he was in the order at the time. Do you think Ddore kept everyone in
the order in the dark (except, presumably, those mentioned in the
prophecy). If so, this seems like a risky way of conducting a
resistance movement. Wouldn't it make the order members' job easier,
to know who V might target next?
5) p.47 (Hagrid discussing what might have happened to V after his
demise) 'Cause there was something about you which finished him.
There was something going on that night he hadn't counted on _ I
dunno what it was, no-one does'. Same point as point 4 above,
really...puts Ddore's reticence with the truth in OoP in a new
perspective.
6) some names in Harry's first visit to the Leaky Cauldron which
may ( or may well not!) appear later...
Doris Crockford, Dedalus Diggle,
7) p. 57 'it's about the you-know-what in vault 713'. Just a point
already mentioned in pre OoP posts : wasn't Sirius' vault later
mentioned a number 712...ie next door to the one used by Ddore to
store the philosopher's stone? Significant? Insignificant? Anyone
have a clue?
8) p.63 in Olivander's shop, Harry learns that his father's wand
was 'good for transfiguration' and Lily's was good for 'charms
work'. I wonder will this be important later.
9) p.70 on platform 9 3/4...the first of many mentions that Ron
is 'tall thin and gangling'. I mention this merely because I like
the theories of the many people pointing out how Ddore looks very
similar. BRILLIANT IDEA if they were somehow connected...time turner
anyone?
10) p.75 'mum's got a second cousin who's an accountant but we
never mention him' gains extra significance after reading the Black
family tapestry scenes in OoP
11) p.77 the chocolate frog card also mentions Ddore's work on
the 12 uses of dragon's blood (which is also later mentioned during
their first year exams - p.167). Interesting. Also, of course,
mentions Ddore's defeat of Grindelwald (interesting world war 2
parallel.) Already been discussed with great depth and insight by
you guys.
12) p.82 why did Scabbers attack Malfoy and crew when they were
attacking the trio on the train? Can't see any reason for
this...Pettigrew doesn't seem the type to put himself out for anyone
but himself.
13) More names from the sorting list as yet undeveloped... (p.89)
Hannah Abbott, Susan Bones (mentioned since I know but will she be
developed further?), Terry Boot, Mandy Brocklehurst, Morag
McDougall, Moon, Nott, Sally-Anne Perks, Blaise Zabini
14) p.93 Seamus describes how horrified his dad was to discover
his mum was a witch. Interesting that Tom Riddle's dad behaved in a
similar way. Is this parallel an intentional foreshadowing on JKR's
part? (especially in light of Seamus' estragement from Harry for
much of OoP).
15) Also on p. 93 is Neville's mention of his great uncle
algie...will he come up later if the Longbottom story is elaborated
on?
16) p.99 first mention of Mrs Filch's 'lamp like ' eyes...a
description which crops up a lot. Also here is mentioned that the
cat's eyes are 'just like Filch'...what is the story with this cat?
It's got to come up later..it just has to.
17) p.105 another mention of 'vault 713'...just to hammer home the
thought that it's a significant number. See point 7 above
18) p.148 Ddore returns JP's invisibility cloak to him,
saying 'your father left this in my possession'. What's the story
there? I bet it'll come up in bok 6 or 7
19) p.155 Ron's mirror of Erised vision of being head boy,
holding the house cup, and being quidditch captain'...lots of people
have produced some great foreshadowing theories here
20) p.156 Dumbledore says 'I don't need a cloak to become
invisible'. He usually knows what's going on amongst the students,
and it's often referred to. I hope we find out just how he knows all
this stuff...someone put forward a great theory that he travelled
between his portrait on the chocolate frog cards. Any other ways of
Ddore being omniscient / omnipresent?
21) p.185 Ronan answers Hagrid's query as to whether he'd seen
anything strange with 'always the innocent are the first
victims'...probably a reference to Cedric's death and Sirius' death.
Ominous. Plus 'mars is bright tonight' etc etc
22) p.189 Firenze tells Harry that anyone who drinks unicorn's
blood (ie Voldemort) will have a half life, a cursed life, from the
moment it touches your lips' ....will this have any significance in
V's further development in books 6 and 7?
23) p.188 Bane tells Ronan that 'we are sworn not to set ourselves
against the heavens. Have we not read what is to come in the
movements of the planets?' So the entaurs are evidently quite
clued up as to what will come...why doesn't Voldemort target them to
learn of how to vanquish Harry? Where will the centaurs' loyalties
lie post OoP?
24) p.213 'your mother needn't have died'. Well, OK, we now know
it was Harry V was after all along, not the Potters per se, but is
there still a reason why he'd have been prepared to spare Lily her
life? I'd like to think so
25) If Quirrelmort couldn't touch Harry because 'it was agony to
touch a person marked by something so good' why can he do so later
in GoF and OoP. Oh, yes, I think I remember why...was it because
Harry's blood was now in V after the resurrection in GoF? Still,
I'll leave this point in because it's still significant and possibly
still open ended (IE THERE MAY BE MORE TO THIS STORY THAN WE KNOW)
26) Dumbledore explains to Harry why Snape hated his father...saved
his life, etc. Presumably this is the defining event which made
James become a nicer person, and which helped Lily to fall in love
with him (or is it?) But if it is, we still don't know the whole
story, I think.
27) Oh, that's it. There is no number 27. Thank goodness. Sorry it's
such a long post.
Any responses? Would love to hear.
Sueeeyqbong
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