[HPforGrownups] Re: OotP: One More Time

[Kelly Grosskreutz]

No: HPFGUIDX 70946

Missed who this was, sorry:
 >
> > During his detentions Harry is tortured by writing nearly endlessly
> using his own blood.
> > He seems curiously passive about all this.  One would think that,
> having seen it used to
> > help resurrect Voldemort a few months before (in GoF), he might be
> more suspicious of
> > Umbridge's motives, especially since he really doesn't know (at the
> time) if she's allied
> > with the Death Eaters.  I guess JKR just wanted to show he was
> tough, and reinforce the
> > evil intent of the odious Umbridge, since nothing really came of it
> in the end.
>
Karen:
> Strangely Lee Jordan doesn't do anything about it either..  And I've
> wondered about Goyle being given lines at the end of the Quidditch
> match that gets Harry banned.

The question I had when I heard that Crabbe (it was Crabbe, not Goyle) got
lines was, who gave him that detention?  Was it Umbridge or Snape?  After
all, Umbridge was hanging out in McGonagall's office overruling what
McGonagall was assigning.  Did she hightail it down to Snape's afterwards
and see how he was handling Crabbe?  Was he going to just let him off and
she forced him to give detention?  Did he actually assign the detention
himself and she just didn't say anything because she thought it was
appropriate and Lucius speaks so highly of him?  And did he have the
detention with Snape or with Umbridge?

One other little tidbit I'd like to point out that may or may not have any
bearing on this.  When Draco is assigned detention in the Forbidden Forest
in PS/SS, he starts complaining to Hagrid about it.  He says he thought he'd
be writing lines, and hints that's what his father would expect out of a
detention as well.  If Snape has a good relationship with Lucius Malfoy,
might he have actually been the one to assign this detention?  He might have
realized he would be expected by Umbridge to mete out some sort of
punishment, and he could be reasonably sure that this is a type that Lucius
wouldn't say too much about.  And if Snape really is working against the
DEs, he might be deriving some pleasure out of having idiotic Crabbe being
forced to write for hours at a time.

So, whose decision was it for Crabbe to have detention, and with whom did he
serve it?

Kelly Grosskreutz
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