First meetings HP/DM, JP/SS was Re: Always bothered me

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 71315


> 
> I'm really beginning to lose patience here. As the person who 
started this thread and I have both pointed out *No One Is Saying It 
Is Harry's Problem* Is that clear? We are saying that Draco was 
genuinely trying to make a
> friend - the fact that he went about it the wrong way is neither 
here nor there. We were discussing whethere he was making an effort 
to befriend Harry and he was.

And I'm saying that isn't a slam-dunk AND I'm saying Harry shouldn't 
feel sorry in the slightest, just so I'm clear and just so there is 
no doubt that "poor inept Draco" isn't the victim here.

I question Draco's sincerity, as did Harry. And if he is insincere, 
that means he is fake and if he is fake, then he wasn't trying to 
make a friend at all. 

So all this "socially inept Draco" then becomes moot.


  
> Me -
> 
> I don't think HGarry felt Draco was being insincere at all he just 
disagreed with him totally.
> 

Canon, page 60-61, UK, after Draco has spent three paragraphs 
insulting Hagrid: 

"Do you?" said the boy, with a slight sneer. "Why is he with you? 
Where are you parents?"

"They're dead," said Harry shortly. He didn't feel much like going 
into the matter with this boy.

"Oh, sorry," said the other, NOT SOUNDING SORRY AT ALL.

Harry thought Draco was insincere about his parents dying. If he 
can't trust this kid on that, then I think he'd have reason to doubt 
most of the other stuff as well. 

I'm also saying that someone so blatantly bad at "making friends" 
perhaps isn't trying to make friends at all, but to throw his weight 
around. 


> Movie poisoning.
>  
> In the book. Hagrid said it.
> 
> Me -
> 
> My mistake I thought it was Ron in the book and Hagrid in the film. 
but
> really who cares who said it? My point was that Harry knew very 
little about any of the houses except what he had been told and what 
he had been told was biased and not totally correct
> 

What wasn't correct? That V-Mort, a Slytherin, a wizard who went as 
bad as you can go, killed Harry's parents? That most of the dark 
wizards started as Slytherins? You referred to propaganda, did you 
not? Well, is that what you meant?

Harry knew his parents were dead because of a Slyth and his 
followers, who were almost exclusively Slyth. He also saw the little 
rat Malfoy get picked for Slytherin in less than a second.

Harry had more than enough correct information to make the right 
choice, and make no mistake, it was the right choice.

Darrin