Sirius and Molly...

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No: HPFGUIDX 71782

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sethrarose" <righel at m...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tracie" <tracie622 at y...> 
wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Melanie Black 
> > <princessmelabela at y...> wrote:
>  
> > The one comment that bothers me the most 
> > was the one where she implied that he could not look after Harry 
> > while in Azkaban.  
> > 
> > This bothered me too, alot.  But Molly does regret saying it 
> > immediatly after it was said.  But, it was definately out of line 
> > and it really did hurt Sirius.  
> 
> Molly does regret hurting Sirius, but she really means what she 
> says.  I would not want to go up against Molly when she's 
> defending 'her' children, and Harry and Hermione are Weasley's by 
> association.  Keep in mind that Molly has had the opportunity to 
know 
> Sirius over a period of time in Grimmauld Place, where she has seen 
a 
> depressed and frustrated man who has never raised children.  She 
has 
> raised an entire brood, ergo she must know more/better.
>

Whoa! Hold on! She has had the opportunity  to know Sirius for maybe 
about a month.  The Azkaban comment comes on the night Harry arrives. 
Assuming that it took sometime for Sirius to "alert the old crowd" at 
the end of GOF (in June) and some additional time for everyone to 
gather at 12 Grimmauld Place, which is several weeks before Harry's 
August 12 hearing and you have maybe a month at the most for Molly 
and Sirius to be together.  Now, if the two of them are spending 
every waking moment together, then, yes, maybe Molly is qualified to 
make comments on Sirius' parental abilities. On the other hand, if 
they have spent that much time together, then maybe as someone who is 
so intuitively motherly, she might have picked up on the fact that 
this is an depressed person and that perhaps treating him with scorn 
is not the most ideal or the most humane course of action.

> > > The next thing that bothered me is the scene on the platform.  
> > > Sirius embraced harry by putting his paws on him.  And Molly 
told 
> > > him (called him Sirius too) to act more like a dog.  
> > 
> > This bothered me too, she even tried to stop him from going to 
> Kings 
> > Cross in the first place.  
> 
> First of all, Molly knows that Sirius is a wanted man.  She knows 
> that a number of Wizards know he's an animagus, and Harry's 
> godfather. 

Funny, that.  Dumbledore had no problem sending Sirius to alert the 
old crowd in June in his Animagus form.  At that point Ddore and his 
allies knew that Peter was with Voldemort and Peter knew Sirius' 
Animagus form. Thus, at that time the possibility existed that 
Voldemort knew of Snuffles, and would tell his minions.  Yet, sending 
Sirius off from Hogwarts in said form was no big deal.  Now, suddenly 
it is a big deal.


She knows Dumbledore told him to stay in the house.  It is 
> reckless, foolish and dangerous for Sirius to go to the station, 
and 
> nearly idiotic to draw so much attention to himself.  It has 
nothing 
> to do with his right to love or embrace Harry, it has to do with 
> safety.

On the other hand, once he's safely back in the unplottable, securely 
defended, Secret-Keepered hidden 12 Grimmauld Place, after the visit 
to the train station, who's going to be able to find him there?  No 
one can get in the door unless it is revealed to them by Dumbledore.  
So, it seems to me that one trip out of the house is not the end of 
the world.

> Molly sees Sirius' behavior change, becoming more reckless and 
> impulsive.  I believe Kreacher drugged him, but there I have 
> information Molly doesn't.  Of course this makes her question his 
> motives and qualifications when making decisions for Harry. 
> 
Molly questions Sirius in the very first scene we see them together.  
Before the trip to the station. Before JKR beats us over the head 
with the changes in Sirius' behavior that show him to be depressed 
and feeling useless.  At that point, Molly accuses him of rash, 
reckless behavior.  And does she give any examples? No, she says 
something to the effect that he's been known to behave recklessly in 
the past. And, keep in mind that Molly was not in OoP the first time 
around.  That makes me wonder just how closely she knows Sirius and 
his past activites, pre-Azkaban.  But, it is certainly convenient to 
have a character on the scene to start making those observations...

Marianne