Continue to snape half-vampire theory by a newbie :)(long!)

ereturtle18 ereturtle18 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 21 18:24:40 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72102

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "icewalker08" 
<icewalker08 at y...> wrote: 
> There is a snape being vampire or half-vampire theory allaround 
which 
> now,after 
> 
> reading book 5,i am 100% agree with it!
> 
> YES he is a half-vampire,first here are the old clues:
> 
> Book one:All Quirrel stuffs:looking for vampire book,garlic & 
saying 
> that Snape is like a 
> big bat and all other points that JKR said about Snape which 
brings 
> vampire in your mind...

Now me (ereturtle18):
    Quirrel's garlic had nothing to to with Snape. On page 71 of SS, 
just after exiting the Leaky Cauldron, Hagrid tells Harry that 
Quirrel was so jumpy because he had met vampires in the Black 
Forest. We now know that this is just a front, but if you're afraid 
of vampires, garlic is a necessity. Did Quirrel choose vampires as 
his front because of Snape? His choice was probably a random part of 
a series of imaginary adventures (Hagrid also mentioned problems 
with hags when he told Harry about Quirrel's trip) that Quirrel just 
took off the top of his head (unless Voldemort had hidden reasons 
for the story, maybe he likes vampires). As for Snape being 
described as "batlike", that's just a metaphor to enhance the 
writing. Would you rather Snape be a raven?

Back to icewalker08:
>
> Book two:Again resembles to vampires :sallow skin ,gliding over 
like 
> a large and malevolent bat
> and ........

ereturtle18: Once again, metaphors to make him look sinister.
> 
> Book three:Lupin's vampire essay right after werewolf essay,again 
> resembles and ....

ereturtle18:Hmm...good point. Could be another coincidence, though...

> 
> Book four:again resembles or points
> 
> In another word ,as all you knew before,JKR mentioned vampires 
many 
> times in her books and most
> 
> of them have been when which Snape has been around. 
> 
> 
> and now....the clues in book 5 which atlast make me accept that he 
is 
> half-vampire:
> 
> 
> Book five :there are again resembles and points specially in the 
> Snape's Worst Memory
> 
> (which i am sure it is his worst memory in harry's point of view 
not 
> snape) anyway here my 
> 
> guesses :
> 
> 
> 1)Snape-the-teenager had a stringy, pallid look about him, like a 
> plant kept in the dark. His 
> hair was lank and greasy and was flopping on to
> the table, his hooked nose barely half an inch from the surface of 
> the parchment as 
> he scribbled.
> ........skinny, pallid legs
> 
> ........a greasy-haired teenager sat alone in a dark bedroom, 
> pointing his wand at the 
> ceiling, shooting down flies 
> 
> >>>>again resembles and also why JKR mentioned specially a dark 
room?
> and why he looked at his 
> parchment so closely while he can catch the small flies in dark 
room?
> isnt that because his eyes cant see in light day very good but see 
> excellent in dark? 

ereturtle18:
       Not necessarily. Snape has always loved DADA, so logically he 
wanted to get high grades in the O.W.L. for it, which is what he was 
writing. I've had my nose to the paper on more than one occasion 
when I was concentrating hard, often without noticing until my face 
got in the way of my pen. JKR always puts Snape in the dark to 
portray him as a shady character.

icewalker08 again:
> 
> 
> 2)call him Snivellus,Greasy hair (as past books) and pair of 
greying 
> underpants
> 
> >>>do you know that vampires or half-vampires dont like running 
> water??well 
> maybe he washs his face,hair and cloths VERY SELDOM cause he 
doesnt 
> like water (i dont mean it 
> harms him,no he is half vampire but he doesnt like it as he doesnt 
> like light but can bear it)
> though i must add this calling him Snivellus might have another 
> reason which i am not 100% sure
> about it and greying underpants can be answered in no.4 too.

ereturtle18: I'm going to blame that on Snape's parents. Looking at 
Snapes earliest shown memory, he probably had lousy parents who 
could have mistreated him, causing him to look that way, and 
attacking his self-esteem to the point where he wouldn't care.
> 
> 
> 3)'Well,' said James, appearing to deliberate the point, 'it's 
more 
> the fact that he exists, 
> if you know what I mean
'
> 
> >>>>>In FB books it said :The centaurs objected to being classed 
as 
> Beings along with 
> vampires....
> i guess here james played with words and JKR has given us the clue 
> before :Exist can also
> mean as ,he is being ...beings

ereturtle18:
      I'm sure Malfoy's made comments like James's before without 
implying that someone's a vampire. 
> 
> 
> 4)called him OLD Snivelly (also JKR called him old snape in Albert 
> hall) 
> 
> >>>>well vampires or half ones are NOT imortal (as i read ) but 
they 
> do age at one-tenth the 
> human rate. So, for every ten years that pass,
> they only grow one year older. (Half-vampires age at one-fifth the 
> human rate.)
> 
>  
> 5)Snape was hanging upside-down in the air....
> 
> >>>>arent the bats usually hanging upside-down from trees???james 
did 
> it by mean.

ereturtle:
      My response to 4: Old is an overused adjective applied to
                        people one doesn't like and no longer has 
                        any meaning when used in that sense.
      My response to 5: James was torturing Snape. Naturally, he 
                        would levitate him in the most humiliating
                        and least comfortable position, which is 
                        upside-down.
 
icewalker08: 
> 
> 6)gripping Harry's arm so tightly Harry's hand was starting to 
feel 
> numb.......
> 
> >>>>although vampires are so thin , they are sooo powerful so i 
guess 
> JKR wanted to show 
> us this point.

ereturtle18: 
        Remember that Harry is also skinny. Were he muscular it 
would be a different story, but anyone could cut off Harry's 
circulation without too much difficulty, especially if they were 
angry, as Snape always is just by being around Harry. 

Sorry if I'm repeating or anything, I only joined the other day, and 
I'm way behind. This is my first post, though shooting a million 
holes in someone else's theory isn't exactly a dramatic entrance. 
Thanks for bearing with me.
 
                ereturtle18, irrepressible Snape fan and long-winded 
post-er ;)






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