flowers

Steve bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 22 03:31:49 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72212

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ccauley" <ccauley at y...> wrote:
>
> ...edited...
> Harry's mother and aunt, are also named after flowers.  Lilly and 
> Petunia.  Is there a connection here?  could they too be related to 
> the blacks!?  COULD HARRY BE RELATED TO THE BLACKS!?
> 
> -chris


Lily and Petunia related to the Blacks?
NO! It is stated numerous times in clear unambiguous terms that Lily
and Petunia are MUGGLES; that is, Muggle borns, Lily is obviously a
witch. Not squibs, but muggles. For people trying to make some
wizarding connection from Harry's mother's side of the family (usually
Heir of Slytherin and/or Heir of Griffindor), it's just not happening.
They are muggles. That doesn't mean that Petunia or Dudley won't turn
out to be magical (another favorite theory); it just means that they
come from a long line of muggles.

Could Harry be related to the Blacks?
I can tell you with absolute certainy that YES 100% Harry is related
to the Blacks because all pureblood wizarding families are
interrelated. That means that in some way James and Sirius were
related. Of course, they may be 12th cousins twice remove. So it's not
a question of are they related, it's a question of how closely they
are related.

To your real point, I think the flower names are a coincidence. It is
much harder to come up with character names than you might think it
is. One would think you could just look in the phone book and take
names at random, but it doesn't work that way. Well, you could
certainly do it, but the names would never fit the characters. In a
desparate search for character names, I have check baby name sites,
ethnic baby name sites, most popular name site, obscure name sites,
ethnic surname site, websites naming famous
Russian/English/Irish/Scotish poets and authors. One of my characters
got there last name when I walked past a tobaco shop and realised that
the only brand of English cigarette I knew about was Dunhill, so he
became James Dunhill. I had to name seven Quidditch players (6 male &
1 female) it took me weeks to find names I was satisfied with.

The point here is that you take good names where you find them, and
JKR has admitted that she is a collector of names, and you can see
that she drew the names of her characters from many many sources;
mythology, astronomy, plants, animals, people, places, things, ... By
the way, even though Dumbledore mean bumblebee, JKR got the name from
a particular type of water lily.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn





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