HPforgrownups Re: Veil Question
sofdog_2000
sofdog_2000 at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 22 16:26:31 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 72332
The veil, or the phrase "beyond the veil" is a religious reference to
the barrier between the living and the dead. More detail is taken
with each interpretation respective to individual creeds and
mythologies. In Christianity the veil was placed in a temple and
separated the seat of God from Man. Someone made an interesting
comment on another board that the whispering voices were like
the "susperia" (many voices) in Dante's Inferno. Wasn't there also a
similar scene in one of the Narnia books? The kids went through a
veil and instead of coming out the other side, they found they had
passed into a realm of death?
Luna's last comment was a bit vague, but I think she meant that the
dead are beyond the veil which means that they still exist. The
opportunity exists to meet them again eventually. I guess the key
point with Sirius was that once he'd crossed that threshold, there
was no coming back.
- Sof
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "esilvae" <esilvae at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Buttercup <cathio2002 at y...>
> wrote:
> > I'm not sure I totally understand this veil that
> > Sirius went through. Would Sirius still have died if
> > he hadn't been standing in front of it? I mean did he
> > only die because he was in the wrong place. Or would
> > he have died no matter where was standing because of
> > Bellatrix's spell? She didn't say Avada Kedavara (not
> > sure of spelling. And do all dead wizards/witches end
> > up behind this veil no matter where you die?
>
> I understood the spell Bellatrix shot at Sirius as being a
> stunner. As Professor McGonnagal (much older than Sirius) took a
few
> of these and survived, I bet Sirius would have been fine if he had
> not gone through the veil.
> I think the veil is a sort of doorway between the living and the
> dead that the unspeakables created while studying death. Since it
is
> a doorway to 'the land of the dead' then, yes, all of the dead
> wizards would be in the realm accessed by this world through the
> veil. All speculation of course, but that was my initial thought
> about the veil.
> -Elizabeth
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