[HPforGrownups] The Ministry's Bombs--Was: Is Sirius Really Dead?

[Danger Mouse]

No: HPFGUIDX 72443

Lauri:
Unless she wanted to illustrate that when a live person goes through the veil/archway he *dies*.  Whether he walks through, is pushed/forced through, falls through - whatever - he's dead.  Obviously we're seeing this from Harry's POV and he doesn't understand exactly why. (Which is why we don't.) However, the adults in the room seemed to understand some unspoken truth that once you go through - that's it.  

Me:
Perhaps. Here we go. First, you have Avada Kedavra (which, as many others agree, is truly a Killing Curse in that in creates a big green ball of death--Cruciatus creates pure pain--Imperius produces absolute control), but that's like a gun--just another way of killing someone, slicing their soul away from their body without so much as a mark (well, a scar, but only if you have a very popular book series). Sure, it's Unforgivable (because it requires pure intent and desire to destroy/murder without regret, I assume), but there's other charms that could be used to kill (discussed before, iirc), such as Levitating a piano over someone's head, Severing someone's head, or, as Pettigrew did, blow up a street. 

What shocks and disgusts me about the Veil, Time, and Love room; is that it seems to take magic too far. It's like the nuclear bomb, the poisons, the embarrassments to science that have only cropped up within the past 100 years. Things made to kill and destroy, to tamper with the vast powers and deep secrets humans have proved themselves irresponsible in using. Sure, genetics has given us great things, but it's also given us even more creative ways of killing and torturing each other. Nuclear bombs allowed for nuclear power, but made possible the destruction of our entire world... now, before I get too off topic...

Our perspective has followed Harry in the past five years from a childlike adoration of magic, to a disillusioned reality. The Ministry is corrupt. People use their power to destroy and manipulate, rather than create. Sirius said that there are shades of morality, not just Death Eaters and the Good Guys. 

Rowling has showed us the nuclear bombs of the wizarding world, and those capable of using them. Is it ethical for the Ministry to create big vats of Love and Time, and a sheet of Death? I don't think so; I think it's going too far, and who knows what other things the Department of Mysteries contains... I think that they're tampering with forces that are too intimate to ourselves and intrinsic to the Universe, and that it's going to disastrous in the end. 

-Dan (the melodramatic one), who wants the whispering Veil burned before any more father figures die.

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