I don't see Harry dying

susanbones2003 rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Thu Jul 24 19:08:52 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72846

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mhershey2001" 
<mhersheybar at h...> wrote:
>  --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "susanbones2003" <rdas at f...> 
> > 
> > > what I am wondering and at this point is how is the ability to 
love so much 
> > you'd  give up your life, how is that going to be used to defeat 
LV? All I can think of is something like invading his body and 
forcing him to feel what sacrificial love is like and hopefully he'd 
just crumble. 
> > > Do you have any thoughts on this?
> > > 
> 
> Here is how I could see it happening:
> 
>   I think that at the end, VD's ultimate downfall will come about 
in 
> a way very similar to the first time he tried to kill Harry, but 
this 
> time, he will actuall die.  That is, Harry will accept death to 
save 
> his friends, much as his mother accepted death to save him.  
However, 
> this time, VD has some of Harry's blood (but no protection) in him, 
> and also has the "flesh of a servant", who happens to be the 
servant 
> who owes his life to Harry, a double whammy as far as I am 
concerned 
> for poor old VD.  I could see Harry's old protections, added to the 
> fact that VD's spell won't work properly against Harry because VD 
has 
> so much of Harry in him (follow that?) will cause the spell to 
> rebound again and hit VD, this time killing him.  Maybe its too 
> perfectly circular, but we still haven't seen much of Wormtail's 
debt 
> to Harry played out, and that was a big foreshadow in PoA.
> 
> Mhershey

I wonder how much Wormtail owes Harry. I guess we know Peter, in his 
own pathetic way did something to help Harry in GOF, by letting Barty 
Crouch Sr. escape. (I am not on this list enough to know if that 
connection is considered reasonable but it always seemed obvious to 
me) But as usual with Harry, the help was not clear enough and didn't 
work. I am just not sure how far the debt goes. Does Peter owe Harry 
endless help or does one good turn clear him? Considering LV would 
have fed Wormtail to Nagini if Barty Jr. hadn't intercepted his 
father, it does seem Peter risked his life to save Harry. If an 
attempt can be considered payback, then Peter might now be free to 
act as he wishes. I just hope your rebounding idea works somehow. I 
can just see the last scene, everything in a pile of smoldering ruins 
and Harry left standing, not sure of how it all happened but the 
completely dead body of LV lying there. But of course that wouldn't 
answer the problem of all those precautions LV took to prevent death, 
the magick that allowed his spirit to wisp away after AK rebounded 
from Baby Harry to him. How can that be solved? How can he truly die 
if he's taken some precaution to prevent ever dying?
Jennifer





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