I don't see Harry dying
susanbones2003
rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Thu Jul 24 19:08:52 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 72846
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mhershey2001"
<mhersheybar at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "susanbones2003" <rdas at f...>
> >
> > > what I am wondering and at this point is how is the ability to
love so much
> > you'd give up your life, how is that going to be used to defeat
LV? All I can think of is something like invading his body and
forcing him to feel what sacrificial love is like and hopefully he'd
just crumble.
> > > Do you have any thoughts on this?
> > >
>
> Here is how I could see it happening:
>
> I think that at the end, VD's ultimate downfall will come about
in
> a way very similar to the first time he tried to kill Harry, but
this
> time, he will actuall die. That is, Harry will accept death to
save
> his friends, much as his mother accepted death to save him.
However,
> this time, VD has some of Harry's blood (but no protection) in him,
> and also has the "flesh of a servant", who happens to be the
servant
> who owes his life to Harry, a double whammy as far as I am
concerned
> for poor old VD. I could see Harry's old protections, added to the
> fact that VD's spell won't work properly against Harry because VD
has
> so much of Harry in him (follow that?) will cause the spell to
> rebound again and hit VD, this time killing him. Maybe its too
> perfectly circular, but we still haven't seen much of Wormtail's
debt
> to Harry played out, and that was a big foreshadow in PoA.
>
> Mhershey
I wonder how much Wormtail owes Harry. I guess we know Peter, in his
own pathetic way did something to help Harry in GOF, by letting Barty
Crouch Sr. escape. (I am not on this list enough to know if that
connection is considered reasonable but it always seemed obvious to
me) But as usual with Harry, the help was not clear enough and didn't
work. I am just not sure how far the debt goes. Does Peter owe Harry
endless help or does one good turn clear him? Considering LV would
have fed Wormtail to Nagini if Barty Jr. hadn't intercepted his
father, it does seem Peter risked his life to save Harry. If an
attempt can be considered payback, then Peter might now be free to
act as he wishes. I just hope your rebounding idea works somehow. I
can just see the last scene, everything in a pile of smoldering ruins
and Harry left standing, not sure of how it all happened but the
completely dead body of LV lying there. But of course that wouldn't
answer the problem of all those precautions LV took to prevent death,
the magick that allowed his spirit to wisp away after AK rebounded
from Baby Harry to him. How can that be solved? How can he truly die
if he's taken some precaution to prevent ever dying?
Jennifer
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