Anti Neville being "The One"

[Fred Waldrop]

No: HPFGUIDX 73057

Hello all, Fred Waldrop here;

In OotP, page 842, US hardcover:
"Then - it might not be me?" said Harry.
"I am afaid," said Dumbledore slowly, looking as though every word 
cost him a great effort, "that there is no doubt it IS you."
"But you said - Neville was born at the end od July too - and his 
mum and dad - "
"You are forgetting the next part of the prophecy, the final 
identifying figure of the boy who could vanquish Voldemort.... 
Voldemrt himself would 'mark him as his equal.' And so he did, Harry. 
He chose you, not Nevelle. He gave you the scar that has proved both 
blessing and curse."

Exactly, what part of this passage that anyone can't understand? 
What part of this makes anyone AT ALL doubt Harry is "The One"?
The only way JKR could make it any clearer is, she would have to 
slap everone on the back of the head, and scream the words to each 
and everyone that has read the books.
 
Fred Waldrop
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"Hickengruendler wrote"

There are two reasons, IMO, why Neville still can be the "One". The 
first is, that it isn't said, when Voldemort will mark the child. In 
theory, Voldemort still can mark Neville.

Also, only about five pages later than Dumbledore's speech, Madame 
Pomfrey explains, that thoughts can leave the deepest scarring. This 
can very well be a hint, that Neville turns out to be the one, 
because he is marked psychologically.

I must admit, I would be more convinced that Harry is "the one", if 
the second part of the prophecy didn't exist. If there were the 
obvious choice between Harry and Neville I would guess that Harry is 
the "Prophecy boy", and that Neville was just mentioned as a red 
herring. But now Neville was mentioned and then ruled out only 
moments later. That makes me a bit suspicious. Why mention him at 
all, if it isn't somehow important?

Hickengruendler
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"Me again, Fred Waldrop"

Hickengruendler, my problem with "only about five pages later than 
Dumbledore's speech, Madame Pomfrey explains, that thoughts can leave 
the deepest scarring" is, Voldemort was NOT the one that marked 
Neville, it was 4 DE's. 
And as for Neville still being marked later by Voldemort, then the 
prediction will be wrong. In the prediction, it was said Voldemort 
would "mark him", not "one of them soon, then unmark him, then mark 
another 16 or so years later".
He, Harry, has already been marked, and unless Voldemort removes that 
mark on Harry's head, and then yell "redo, redo" it just does not 
work. Plus, what part of the prediction says Voldemort can change his 
mind?  
And finally, how many times does Harry have to prove he is the equal 
one that was prdicted to go against  Voldemort? (he has already 
fought him 5 times, and won!! Has any one else fought him that many 
times and lived, much less won?)

Fred Waldrop