[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape as the Hanged Man (tarot)
Carolin Mönkemeyer
shokoono at gmx.de
Sat Jul 26 22:32:17 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 73367
> Now me: I think the Hanged Man reversed means that the initiated
> person improved themselves through the ordeals they had to suffer,
> and is now a new person. If you know tarots, you probably know that
> the following card is Death. It doesn't mean physical death. It only
> means that the initiated person suffered a huge change, and is no
> longer the same (and it fits with Harry's behaviour in OotP; some
> listies were very disturbed because they simply didn't recognize
> him). All the matter is to know if the change is positive or
> negative. Of course, in Harry's case, it is positive, though he
> suffers, though he happens to be rude with his friends, and though
> it 's hard for him to go on.
> In Snape's case, well I don't know. He hates Harry because the kid
> is his nemesis' son. In other words, he doesn't forgive Harry for
> what James did when he was a teenager. I think Snape in a certain
> way, is still hanging upside down, mentally. He didn't manage to
> overpass the trauma, he didn't manage to go back to his feet and go
> on. There's a part in him that is still a teen age boy (and we could
> say the same concerning Sirius; they are twins in a psychological
> way). And that's why he hates Harry and bullies him. Take this
> example: when he sees that Harry managed to produce a correct
> potion, he breaks flask willingly, so he will have the satisfaction
> of giving the kid a zero. This is not the behaviour of a mature
> teacher. Even if you don't like a student, even if he or she has a
> negative behaviour (but it's not Harry's case), you must treat
> him/her fairly. If you have to evaluate their work, you must put
> apart your private considerations, they don't have to interfere in
> the mark. Breaking the flask, Snape behaves like a resentful
> teenager. He punishes Harry for James's and Sirius's faults.
> As you quoted, it's a matter of consciousness. Apparently, Harry
> learns better than Snape.
> Although he is still a teenager, he is in a certain way (his
> behaviour) more mature than his teacher.
> Harry needs Snape because he needs to master the art of potions,
> which will play IMO a huge part in Book 6. Snape needs Harry to
> overpass his own anger and resentment. I'm sure the kid will manage
> to understand where his own interest lies and will make an effort to
> overpass the anger he feels towards his master. I don't know if I
> can make the same assertion concerning Snape. Any thoughts?
>
> Amicalement,
>
> Iris
>
>
Me:
I just want to say something about Snape breaking that flesk.
Considder the point of time when he was doing it. It was short after Harry
breaking into Snape's pensive (I don't want to discuss whose fault it has
been). Snape was in a "special" emotional situation, because he was exposed
by James and Sirius. And though it must have been a big satisfaction to show
Harry what his father was like out of his point of view it also must have
been heavily embarrassing to him. He doesn't trust Harry to never ever say a
word about what he has seen for hedoes the same mistake as Sirius did: He
mixes up father and son!
I don't want to justify what he did but surely Harry DID DO SOMETHING
WRONG!!!
Yours Finchen
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