SHIP: Hermione likes Harry--making assumptions

[Judy]

No: HPFGUIDX 73609

 "serenadust" wrote:
 I don't see Ron's kiss as being any more romantic than 
> the kiss she gives Harry.  Ron and Harry rise from the table to 
> leave 
> > for their game and Hermione rises with them.  She grasps Harry's 
> arm 
> > and takes him aside to tell him to not let Ron see what's written 
> on the Slytherins buttons. Ron makes his way to where they are 
> standing (he was sitting on the opposite side of the table?) 
looking desparate and alone.  She kisses him (Good luck Ron) and 
turns and kisses Harry 
> > (and you too, Harry ---).
> 
> 
> I really don't engage in many shipping discussions, but I really 
> must object to the totally unwarrented assumption that Hermione 
> kisses anyone but Ron in this scene.
> 
> The quote is:
> 
> "Good luck, Ron," said Hermione, standing on tiptoe and kissing him 
> on the cheek. "And you, Harry --"
> 
> There is no "too" in the sentence.  The expression "and you" 
> indicates that she is wishing Harry luck as well as Ron, but not 
> that she has kissed him.  <snip> In other words, if JKR doesn't 
tell us a kiss happened, then there simply was no kiss.

Now, me,

I do ship (H/Hr), but I also find the extents to which some shippers 
go to prove a point quite 'interesting.'  Shipping details have 
indeed been muddied (purposely) by JKR and further by shippers 
themselves, BUT I do object to the notion that if something is not 
stated specifically, we cannot assume.  The H/Hr shippers have every 
right to assume that Hermione kissed Harry too, especially from the 
context, and especially, as most of us assume that the kiss was 
platonic.  
There are several instances in the text of OoP where we are asked to 
supply missing information that is not stated specifically.  It is a 
standing joke through the book that every time Hermione mentions 
Voldemort's name in Ron's presence, he makes some kind of terrified 
reaction:  OoP, Ch 16, p. 332 (American edition)  Hermione 
speaking:  "...I mean, we're talking about defending ourselves 
against V-Voldemort--oh, don't be pathetic, Ron--..."  p. 333 " The 
trouble is," she said to Harry, "until V-Voldemort--oh for heaven's 
sake, Ron--..."  I found it fun to imagine what Ron's actual reaction 
was and found myself a bit annoyed that I simply could not imagine my 
literary Ron making them as Rupert Grint's very expressive face kept 
coming to mind. :-)  
My point is, Ron's reaction was implied by the context, but never 
stated.  

>From the time he arrived in the Great Hall, Ron is dazed and confused 
and thinks he was 'mental' to believe he could play keeper. (OoP, Ch. 
19 ) After the kiss, Ron is "touching the place on his cheek, looking 
puzzled as though he was not quite sure what had just happened."  It 
is only a bit of encouragement and it's implied she 'encouraged' both 
boys without there being more to it than that.
:-),
Judy