[HPforGrownups] Re: Bad, bad Trelawney

jazmyn jazmyn at pacificpuma.com
Wed Jul 30 01:16:04 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 74050



maneelyfh wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "evangelina839"
> <evangelina839 at y...> wrote:
>  > This just occured to me and I'm too tired to give it any more
> thought
>  > tonight, but I
>  > just wanted to mention it. In OoP, Harry asks Snape why he calls
>  > Voldemort "the Dark
>  > Lord" - "I've only ever heard Death Eaters call him that". (Seen and
>  > Unforeseen) And
>  > what does professor Trelawney call LV in both her
> predictions... "the
>  > Dark Lord". I do
>  > find that quite interesting, but I haven't thought of what it would
>  > mean for Harry and
>  > the story if Trelawney is Ever So Evil, or if there has been any
>  > other indication that she
>  > might be. BTW, is there any other character, not confirmed DE, that
>  > has referred to LV
>  > as the Dark Lord?
>  > Sorry if this has already been brought up, I'm terribly behind at
> the
>  > moment.
>  > evangelina
> 
> Kreacher refers to LV as the Dark Lord in the beginning of OOP.  big
> clue there what creature he turned out to be...
> Fran
> 

Barty Crouch Sr referred to LV as the Dark Lord when he tried to warn 
Harry before he was killed by his son.  Trelawny referred to him as the 
Dark Lord ONLY when she was doing a 'real prediction', which she never 
remembers afterwards nor seems to know what she's doing when she does 
give 'real' prophecies.

Note that Dobby referred to LV as the Dark Lord more then once.  The 
person who wrote Harry's valentine (Ginny?) called LV the Dark Lord in 
the poem.

I think Harry is generalizing way too much when he says ONLY the Death 
Eaters call LV the Dark Lord.  Not surprising as most people that age 
can only see in clear cut black and white.  Like Sirius told him, the 
world is not neatly divided into Death Eaters and Non-Death Eaters...

Jazmyn







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