Orbs & Prophecies

[traiderbob]

No: HPFGUIDX 74275

Hi

I've been lurking here for a while and would like to share some of my 
ideas.  All of the usual apologies apply.

There are some clues that lead me to believe that there is more than 
one orb that applies to our story.  Bode, under the impervious curse 
by Malfoy, tries to retrieve the orb from the Hall of Prophecy.  He 
is rendered insane by the charms that protect them.  Dumbledore 
explains in OoP p. 829, "Only the people to whom they refer can lift 
them form the shelves without suffering madness."  If Bode's madness 
is due to touching an orb it is not from Harry's orb.  JKR writes OoP 
p. 779, "Ron was pointing at one of the small glass spheres that 
glowed with a dull inner light, though it was very dusty and appeared 
not to have been touched for many years."  So, what prophecy did Bode 
try to get?

There are clues in Harry's prophecy that point to what Bode was 
after.  Let's look at Harry's prophecy from OoP p.841.

     "THE ONE WITH THE POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD APPROACHES
. 
BORN TO THOSE WHO HAVE THRICE DEFIED HIM, BORN 
AS THE SEVENTH MONTH DIES
 AND THE DARK LORD WILL MARK
HIM AS HIS EQUAL, BUT HE WILL HAVE POWER THE DARK LORD KNOWS NOT
AND 
EITHER MUST DIE AT THE HAND OF THE OTHER FOR NEITHER
CAN LIVE WHILE THE OTHER SURVIVES
. THE ONE WITH THE 
POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD WILL BE BORN AS THE SEVENTH
MONTH DIES
."

The first thing I notice is the use of all caps and the bold caps.  
Dark Lord is bold as well as the first letter of each sentence.  
Notice that sentences are defined by periods and pauses by ellipses.  
I believe that each sentence is a prophecy about a different person, 
and that these prophecies are so closely related or in some way 
intertwined that they are all grouped into one orb.  Another 
explanation would be that they have been misinterpreted to be one 
prophecy.

Each of the three prophecies has a statement about the birth of a 
person.  Three sentences and three birth statements about one person 
would be quite redundant.  The first and second prophecy birth 
statements contain a reference to July.  "Approaches" in the first 
prophecy makes me think farther into the future, or rather July makes 
me think in the year the prophecy was made.

The second prophecy is refers to Harry.  Dumbledore's explanation of 
the prophecy stays within the lines of this prophecy.  The only 
divergence I saw was, vanquish, OoP p.842, which isn't in Harry's 
prophecy.  I don't have a problem with that since killing Voldemort 
is a permanent form of vanquishing.  Further evidence that this 
sentence is Harry's prophecy is found in OoP p. 844, ""Harry 
asked""
""The end of the prophecy
 it was something about
"neither 
can live
""  And then Dumbledore confirms the end of Harry's 
prophecy, ""
while the other survives.""  The problem is that there 
is one more sentence in the prophecy, but it belongs to Neville.

The last prophecy has a birth statement for July, seemingly in the 
same year that the prophecy was made, that fits Neville.  I think 
something will happen in Neville's life that will make him fit the 
prophecy better.  He will be getting a new wand, that may increase 
his power, but I bet it's more than that.  Neville also has a 
connection with Harry and Ginny that I will look at in prophecy one.

The first prophecy has a birth statement that isn't limited to the 
year that the prophecy was made.  It also is stated that this person 
has the vanquishing power, as does everyone in these three 
prophecies.  I have chosen Ginny for this prophecy.  Her experiences 
in CoS could not have left her "unmarked".  She was possessed on 
several occasions by Voldemort.  Is it possible that Voldemort 
transfers power to these people when he does this?  Her abilities are 
beyond her years.  Prophecy one isn't gender specific like prophecy 
two.  And finally Ginny, Harry, and Neville were all entranced in the 
Death Room by the veil.  I don't know what this means but I think 
it's clear they have something in common.

So
I have to ask again, which prophecy was Bode trying to get?  Was 
it a copy of this one?

Sorry this was so long.