Another prophecy?

[sarah_haining]

No: HPFGUIDX 74355

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nymphadora1" 
<nymphadora1 at y...> wrote:

> My theory is that Firenze either saw something in 
> the stars (Centaurs having the gift of prophecy), or he learned 
> something from another Centaur who saw something. This prophecy 
> related to Harry and the upcoming battle with LV, and may prove to 
> be as pivotal as the one Trelawney made. Firenze considered it so 
> important that he told Dumbledore: this is something the other 
> Centaurs would have been furious about. 
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> I think we will learn more about Firenze and Centaur's 
> abilities in upcoming books. This second prophecy may be the key 
to 
> defeating LV, or it may contain information that is vital in the 
> battle ahead. I think it may tell us something new and startling 
> about Harry, something the Centaur's have known for a long time, 
but 
> none have divulged before now. 
 "Nymphadora"

Me: I have to agree with you on this. It also struck me how curious 
it was that JKR brought Firenze back again just to teach a subject 
that Harry and Ron, if either of them can help it, will drop quicker 
than a hot potato. Therefore surely there must be something more to 
this character than his new role as teacher.

As for what information he has about Harry/Voldemort whilst it may 
not be a prophecy in the Trelawney sense of the word, I believe they 
must know something of what her prophecy contained, even if they 
read it in the heavens. PS/SS, Pg 187 
(UK):

Bane - 'Remember, Firenze, we are sworn not to set oursleves against 
the heavens. Have we not read what is to come in the movements of 
the planets?'

While Harry presumes that the Centaurs read that Voldemort is going 
to return with full power, why would Bane bring this up in reference 
to rescuing Harry? Whilst we know he believes helping humans is 
beneath centaurs, the fact he states the above with ref. to Harry 
makes me wonder whether perhaps what they have been reading is 
Harry's death/sacrifice at the hands of Voldemort. This would tie in 
with what Bane is saying - we know the boy is fated to die, do not 
try and meddle in the affairs of the heavens by trying to rescue him.

This is reinforced further by what Firenze's parting words to Harry 
were:

'The planets have been read wrongly before now, even by centaurs. I 
hope this is one of those times.'(Pg 189)

Whilst again this could be applied to the rise of Voldemort it makes 
more sense if the centaurs believe that Harry will die or sacrifice 
himself. Firenze either hopes he is wrong becuase if Harry dies 
Voldemort will truly reign or because he seems to like the 
young 'foal' and hopes he does not have to sacrifice himself.

In any case, I think Firenze will have a much greater role in the 
following books.

sarah lizzy