Tomboy Lily

[Grey Wolf]

No: HPFGUIDX 59245

Inge wrote:
> This may have been discussed before - if so - Im sorry to bring it up 
> again but I have long wondered if Lily didn't have any close female 
> friends at Hogwarts.
> We know of James' close friends and what happened to them later on - 
> but there has been no mention of any close friends of Lily's. Isn't 
> that a bit odd?

We know nothing of Lily, full stop. Only that she made head girl, IIRC 
(and what her wand was made of). She might have had female friends at 
school, but considering we don't know anything about *her* I don't find 
the least amazing we haven't heard about her friends. 

> Was she such a tomboy just hanging around with the boys?

This is the main point I wanted to answer, in fact. I don't think Lily 
hanged with James and the others all that much. We have good canon of 
James and Sirius being constantly together, and canon of a strong 
group, the marauders. No mention of Lily as part of the group.

It is my belief that James and Lily were not "officially" going out 
until quite late, and definetely not really close friends until the 
late years - maybe they didn't get to know each other until they were 
made head boy and girl.

This is all part of my counter-LOLLIPOPS theory. The entire (LOLLIPOPS) 
theory is based around the fact that Snape has never mentioned Lily, 
because it is too painful. My take on this is slightly different: Snape 
doesn't mention her becasue she never loomed large in his view of the 
world. Imagine Harry falling in love and subsequentely marrying one of 
the two unamed Gryffindor girls. Would Draco, 11 years from now, 
mention them? No, becasue he never knew they existed. (Yes, it is a 
shacky theory, but I don't like shipping, so I'll hold on to anything). 
More to the point, until we get more Lily!canon, what little we know 
points towards an outside-MWPP Lily.

> It seems somewhat strange that if she DID have close female friends - 
> none of them have cared about their late friends young son who was 
> dramatically left without parents - at the Dursley's even. 
> Wouldn't it have been more likely that at least one or two would have 
> cared enough to come by and see Harry or visit him or go through fire 
> to find out where their dead friend's little boy ended up? 
> If Lily had close female friends these friends must also have known 
> (from Lily) that the Dursley-family probably wouldn't appreciate the 
> idea of Harry living in their house.
> Just wondering where the close friends of Lily's went.....
> 
> Inge

If Lily had friends that didn't get killed by DEs and that could've 
taken an interest in Harry, they're still impotent to do something 
about it. Without an official position (like being Godmothers or 
something), they wouldn't have got past Dumbledore's/MoM's defenses of 
the boy. He is at the Dursleys for his protection, after all. I do seem 
to remember that harry notices witches and wizards meeting him when 
he's outside the house (one being Daedalus Diggle). Maybe some of the 
others are Lily's old school friends.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf