MAGIC DISWASHER and Dumbledore Dead
Melody
Malady579 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 5 02:26:57 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 59347
Grey Wolf wrote:
>Err... I'm afraid, Pickle Jimmy, that you're putting ideas into MAGIC
>DISHWASHER that simply are not there. For the record, and to prevent
>people from missinterpreting MD even more, MD *does not* say that
>Dumbledore will live until the end of the books. It does not say he
>will not, either. Because MD does not try to predict the future plots
>of the books, just to explain what has been going on behind the
>scenes so far.
Gee, Grey. You give this speech so much you must cut and paste it
from Word. :P
No, it does not predict the future.
-but-
>From the premises set out in the theory, one might want to try to.
And I see not harm in that. MD as a theory is very well
defined...that is if you ever type that mega-MD post. :D
Ok, ruffled the fur of The Wolf long enough. On to Pickle Jimmy's
wondering.
> Pickle Jimmy again:
> Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the MD meant that Dumbledore
> couldn't die... what I meant (and probably could have said more
> clearly) is that it is *my* belief that Dumbledore will be there
> until the end MAGIC DISHWASHERing - or directing the show (alive and
> well) until the end.
He could be. As of right now, he definately has all the strings of it
in his hands, but it seems to me he is giving Harry more of a
foundation to not need Dumbledore as much. After all, isn't that what
an education is for? To make those who are weaker stronger?
But is your theory really dependent on MD? I think it isn't, but if
you look at your theory through MD, then you do have to assume
Dumbledore will make provisions. If what he is really planning for is
his own death, then he will want to continue what he has dedicated his
many years too. The education and preparing of Harry Potter for that
day to defeat the evil upon their land. Hehe....sorry. Getting into
the epic wording.
> What I was saying is that *I* don't think
> JK will use the "Death of a Mentor" plot in the series as it has
> been done.
Maybe. Let's say she does. Let's say, she had Dumbledore walk up to
Voldemort in front of our young hero, as Obiwan and Gandalf did, and
seemedly "die" and make our young hero feel ever so alone and thus
take up the gauntlet of his fallen master and defeat the thing that
destroyed his youth and ideal life.
Eh...it would be ok. Epic. Grand. Fitting. I am sure Dumbledore
would find some way, he is a powerful wizard, to still influence Harry
beyond the grave. He has to bridge the Snape and Harry gap they so
carefully constructed (possible). Place a successor headmaster that
will allow Harry the same freedoms that Dumbledore does to wander at
will (McGonagall would turn a blind eye...she seems to have so far).
Leave a few body guards to watch Harry's back (Lupin, Black,
Weasleys). Keep Harry surrounded by people that love him and will
tend to his needs as a human being (Weasleys and Ron and Hermione).
Hmmm...Dumbledore has all that. Maybe he can leave it all.
I guess I must wonder. *Must* he?
Must Dumbledore do that? He does not have to you know. And I think
that is what you are debating. JKR has the outlet, but will she go
for it? I hope not. It is a bit trite, but then again being betrayed
by a best friend is trite, yet she managed to make it fascinating and
chilling.
> I could be wrong (and am the first to admit I have been before), and
> I appologise if I lead anyone astray with my MD statement.
Oh that is ok. Grey just wanted to clarify the theory. It is so
menacing it is hard for anyone, and that includes MDDT, to keep tabs
on all its many sub theories. We are hoping to remedy that. Soon.
Granted it *must* be soon. OoP is three weeks away. :D
Melody
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