[HPforGrownups] Harry and Dumbledore: same person?
Helen R. Granberry
helen at odegard.com
Wed Jun 18 21:32:14 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 60968
It has been one of my favorite theories ever since I heard of it from
Hobbit_guy (who wrote at least part of a really great fanfic based on
it) at Fiction Alley, and I would love to see more threads myself. I
posted some circumstantial evidence for it on the Trekbbs and then on
the CoS forums. I think the theory may have actually started here on
HP4GU, but I am not really sure. Anyway... here is the evidence so far
(pre-OotP):
Resemblance:
Both Ron and Dumbledore are always described as being tall, skinny with
long noses. Dumbledore is also described as having long fingers, while
Ron is described as having large hands and feet. Long hands=long
fingers. Of course, we all know that DD was once a redhead from the
Riddle Diary scene in CoS. There are only two holes in need of plugging
here: we don't know Ron's eye color (DD has blue eyes) and DD has had
his nose broken.
Omniscient Dumbledore:
He knows everything. EVERYTHING. Was he *really* invisible when Harry
and Ron looked into the Mirror of Erised? Or was he there the first time
as Ron? Can he really see through invisibility cloaks, or did he know
that Harry and Ron were hiding beneath one in Hagrid's hut in CoS? How
did he seem to know what was going on in PoA? Believing Sirius'
innocence even before Harry and Hermione told him? Eyes twinkling even
BEFORE Buckbeak got away? How did he know in PS/SS precisely when to
come and save Harry from Voldie? How did he know Riddle was evil,
despite everyone seemingly thinking him a Golden Boy?
The vomit flavored bean... or the final straw that made me a True
Believer:
Several weeks back, TLC posted a link to the new Famous Witches and
Wizards cards that JKR provided the information for. Like a good little
Harry Potter fiend, I went and had a looksee. Lo, what did I behold? A
card for Bertie Bott, inventor of the Every Flavor Bean with a birthdate
in 1934! If you will recall, Dumbledore tells Harry in the hospital wing
at the end of PS/SS that he lost his taste for the EFB's after coming
across a vomit flavored bean in his youth. In his YOUTH! Now, we know DD
is old, but round about a hundred is most certainly not his 'youth' by
any stretch of the imagination. There is just no way. The card is either
a Flint or... DD lived his youth in the twentieth century.
So what happened? At some point, Ron would have to be sent back in time.
Why? Who knows? Possibly to save Harry... possibly by his older self in
a great big time paradox. Maybe it was an accident. At any rate, he is
sent way far back in the past and... becomes DD. Comes up with the uses
for dragons blood, works with Flamel, defeats Grindewald and all that
good stuff. Eventually he becomes Headmaster at Hogwarts and waits for
Harry and his younger self to arrive.
This theory is way out there. It has all of the problems anything having
to do with time travel has. As much as I love the theory, it is not
without major questions. However... wouldn't it be just so darn cool?
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