OOP: Sirius and death (the point of it)

Charles Phipps tcp at zoomnet.net
Mon Jun 23 03:36:28 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 61779

What I think needs to be said about Sirius' death is perhaps the fact 
that one SHOULDN'T try to read too much meaning into it.  

My mother and I still have arguements about my brother's premature 
death and at the risk of blasphemy God's plan.

In this respect I don't think Harry will have to stand alone more 
because of Sirius Black's death. Sirius wasn't a man taking care of 
Harry even if he was Harry's father figure, a man whom like Albus and 
his father's memory gave him a good idea of what GOOD parents were 
supposed to be like (Molly and Arthur too helped)

Furthermore Sirius's death does not serve to destroy in my mind any 
more of Harry's father figure issues, at least so much in the fact 
that it wasn't done too much by other means.

Sirius was in his 20s in Azkaban really and never really got a chance 
to mature beyond that....he was still lagging behind James and Lily 
when his life was ruined (morotocyle and all that)

In any case I think Sirius' death should be treated as I think it was 
intended by Rowling, a senseless tragedy.

Voldemort and his death eaters in order to remain scary require the 
dramatic necessity of showing how bad they really are while also 
winning victories that remind you we're not in cartoon land where 
KAOS will be beaten without causalties.

Celdric Diggory was I think the first of what J was trying to show. 
Celdric was a bright, athletic, intelligent, sociable man who had his 
life snuffed by Voldemort for no reason whatsoever.  While we didn't 
know him well enough to care....in the real world we'd call this a 
monumental tragedy.

A tragedy Harry is at fault for in part, but only so much as the fact 
that Voldemort is the ultimate cause and Harry has set himself 
against it.

The Death eaters are senseless murderers, they kill because they feel 
good about it and it makes them feel important.  Sirius died not 
because of a story standpoint really (except where we point 
out 'God'/JK could have adverted it) but because these are dangerous 
people who don't care about life.

And Sirius chose to risk his life to save Harrys.

The veil was probably used because other methods (the Killing curse, 
a spell that left a body etc) would probably have been too grizzly 
for the affect she wanted.

J could have killed any of the group but she chose the man who was 
most heroically bold and filled with life...a man who would been the 
hero in any other book.

Yes its a tragic loss of stories but then again so is Lilly and James 
were they introduced early on. 

To that end in my mind we should accept Sirius's death at face value. 
He died because he was a member of the Order of the Phoenix facing 
Voldemort and his psychopaths

"Charles Phipps"






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