OOP: The Shipping News (spoilers, of course)
isabella_080
isabella_080 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 23 14:57:47 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 62103
Hard for me to decide which post to respond to....
> Sirius Sam:
> Long time reader, first time poster, blah blah blah.
> Got the book at midnight, finished it by the next midnight, and
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> been waiting to post ever since, so without further ado (but with
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> The Ships:
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> H/R: What a let down. Nothing. After GoF I was sure that we would
> see a kiss in this book. And when they were both made Prefects! The
> stage was set, they would be spending time together without Harry,
> it was bound to happen...but it didn't. The only hint of a H/R ship
> that I could find comes on page 658, when Hermione asks Ron to help
> convince Harry not to communicate with Sirius.
> " ' What do you think about this?' Hermione demanded of Ron, and
> Harry was reminded irresistibly of Mrs. Weasley appealing to her
> husband during Harry's first dinner in Grimmauld Place"
> I guess there's still a possibility, but it's looking grim for H/R.
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> Me:
> Don't forget Ron's reaction to Hermione kissing him on the cheek
before the Quidditch game, and Ron getting her perfume for Christmas.
I think that about wraps up R/H moments, unfortunately. *is a
definite R/H shipper*
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> Sirius Sam:
> H/H: Here we have some definite improvements (I myself am an H/R
> shipper, so this was disappointing as well). The whole deal with
Cho
> just brought Harry and Hermione closer, such as when Harry is
forced
> to admit he doesn't think Hermione's ugly (which is a big deal for
a
> 15 year old boy). The other big hint comes at the end, but could be
> interpreted two ways. On the train ride home, when the kids are
> talking about relationships, Ginny mentions breaking up with
> Michael, and then (pg. 866):
> " 'Well, I always thought he was a big of an idiot," [Ron]
> said...'Good for you. Just choose someone -- better -- next time.'
> He cast Harry an oddly furtive look as he said it."
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> Me:
> I, for one, saw H/H shot down even more in this book. Hermione's
behavior is just way too platonic. Sure, they had some nice
friendship moments, but I can't imagine Hermione acting like she did
about Harry and Cho (very platonically, that is)
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Oooh, my first post. Too much to respond to:
H/R: Yeah, at first I was like "whaaa? *NO* H/R!?!" But then I got
to thinking...there are very *very* subtle hints (the Harry being
reminded of Mr & Mrs. Weasley, the kiss on the cheek, even R&Hr
spending time together discussing Harry). I *really* think this ship
is going to happen, but not until the 7th book. I think JKR *knows*
that we (ok, many of us) know it's going to happen and are desperate
for it to happen, so she is dragging it out - she is never one for
the obvious. The lack of R/H is serving the same function as her red
herrings, IMHO. It wouldn't have had much place in OOP anyway. This
book is really about Harry's issues. I think maybe Luna does like
Ron, but they would be really weird together...I also believe that
they all have to have time to date around a bit before really falling
for someone. Which leads me to...
H/Cho: I'm glad that's out of the way. I mean, he did kinda just
fall for her without knowing her at all...which is quite normal for a
teenager. I'm glad he had his first kiss, it was rather cute ("Wet."
Hehe.) But I think we are being set up for...
H/G: I only ever liked H/G because I have so been in Ginny's place
before, and I feel her pain - never much of an H/G'er. But now that
she doesn't like him, I think it is totally time for it to happen.
Ginny lived up to everything I was hoping she would be: she's fiesty,
athletic, spunky...and she already has dating experience. She was
even snarky to Harry a couple times....loved it! I was *so* happy
when I heard she was dating Micheal Corner b/c it's pretty much the
first acknowledged teen relationship since Percy/Pen. And I
definitely took notice of Ron's "oddly furtive look." (maybe it's
Ron's Seeing tendencies at work again)
I have a small theory that perhaps H/G will become rather important
in Book 7. JKR mentioned in a recent interview (I think it was the
BBC one) that there is something BIG in 7 that would really be
upsetting if someone guessed it. She mentioned it in a discussion of
ships, but it sounded like it was more important than just ships. It
seems to me JKR is developing this theme of the importance of love in
conquering evil (Lily's sacrifice, being the most obvious...
Harry's "heart" being what seperates him from V..etc.). What if
something to do with love is how Harry will defeat V in the end?
Because I don't see him giving V the old AK...and what if it has to
do with Ginny? This is a bit far-fetched, and I actually don't care
if H&G get together....but maybe.
And H/H: I personally feel OOP shot it down. I always hated H/H so I
am biased, I guess, but Hermione seemed *SO* platonic with Harry. Of
course, I could be completely off base and blinded by my H/R love. I
really see these two only children as developing a very brother-
sister relationship... to me, that is just as moving and wonderful as
if they fell in romantic love with each other. I love their
frienship.
All in all, I was happy to see people dating in general. I felt like
there were a lot of very subtle hints that they are growing up, the
dating being the most obvious. Did anyone notice it's the first time
they really drink coffee? I thought that was so weird...but it makes
sense...maybe I'm crazy? People saying "dammit" a bit more. Well
that's neither here nor there.
Isabella
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