OOP Questions and Inconsistencies

Claire Browning dis_aliter_visum at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 23 18:32:12 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 62248

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kirsten Gilson <byujava at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> > > So we know Harry and Luna could hear voices in the
> > veil, Hermione 
> > and Ron made no comments about it either way, but
> > Ginny and Neville were 
> > > "mesmorized" by it as were Harry and Luna. Some
> > have said it may be 
> > like seeing the thestrals and knowing death is
> > required to heare the 
> > voices, but if it follows the thestral thinking then
> > who did Ginny see die between the time they rode the
> > Thestrals to when they saw the veil??? 

I don't think we can tie the feeling people get when they are near 
the veil to the same kind of concrete thinking that goes seeing 
death = seeing thestrals.

Ginny was possessed by Tom - thank god they finally mentioned this! 
It was like everyone had forgotten this for the last two books - she 
was close to death herself in the Chamber of Secrets, and my guess 
is her experience in book two will play an important role in the end 
of the series.  

Neville saw his grandfather die and he has clearly experienced pain 
and suffering unlike his peers - other than Harry, of course.

To me, Ginny and Neville's life experiences make them much closer to 
Harry than Ron and Hermione are in some ways.  Ron and Hermione, 
love them as much as I do, haven't had to deal with as much or the 
same kind of difficulties as the other three.

Difficult to explain exactly what I mean, but this is the impression 
I left OOTP with.


Why did Harry
> > not see the thestrals at the end of GoF? > >
> > 
> > Maybe Harry was just too numb? I don't know.
> > 
> 
> On that note, Neville could see the thestrals because
> he saw his grandfather die, I'm assuming when he was
> very young.  If that's true, then Harry witnessed at
> least his mother's death when he was a baby, so how
> come he couldn't see the thestral's then? 
> 
> Kirsten

That is a good point, but I think it is within JKR's right to fudge 
this a little for dramatic purposes.

"Claire"






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