OoP: I'll do it: In defense of James

darrin_burnett bard7696 at aol.com
Tue Jun 24 00:21:17 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 62515


> > > Darrin the brave:
> > > 
> > > > First, something still doesn't track. Snape came to school 
> knowing more curses and hexes than any seventh-year, and here we 
are in the middle of fifth-year and James clearly outclasses him, 
even with a bit of the element of surprise going on.
> > 

Amnada replied:
> > > Recall, please, the source of this information about Snape. I 
am 
> at 
> > > work and unable to verify, but I'm 99% certain it was Sirius 
who 
> said 
> > > this, when he's talking to Ron, Harry, and Hermione in his 
> hideout 
> > > cave, in GoF. Information or perspectives on Snape obtained via 
> > > Sirius is, to me, a tad suspect.
> > > 
> > > I point this out simply to say that we don't necessarily know 
> that 
> > > this is true for a fact. Sirius seems the type to have made a 
> snap 
> > > decision about Snape, regardless of when he made it, and stick 
to 
> it, accuracy be damned.
> > 

Calimora:
 
> Me:
> All of gryffindor seems to be judgmental. They'll give you the 
> benifit of the doubt at the beggining, but Merlin help you if they 
> ever have cause to think you're less than perfect.
> 

Funny, I look at Draco, Pansy, Lucius and the other known Slyths and 
that's exactly what I think of them. Heaven help a non-Slyth if they 
are less than perfect. Between Draco's comments on their money, 
Pansy's comments on their fashion sense and Lucius dictating all that 
is proper, it's the Slyths who define what is cool and uncool.

In short, they are the clique you hated in high school.

All of Gryffindor? That includes Hagrid, who stands up for Muggle-
borns, Dumbledore, who gives jobs to half-humans, McGonagall, social 
worker Hermione, the freer of house elves?

How about Fred and George, the patron saints of misfits, Arthur the 
Muggle-lover, Neville the symbol of underdogs everywhere?

Nope, not all of Gryffindor. Maybe the Mauraders at 15, but that's 
hardly all of Gryff. 


Calimora:

> Actually, I was more interested in Snape's responce than James 
> motivation. (Boys are prats, Teenage boys are bigger prats, and 
> teanage boys trying to get girls define the word prat.) James 
dishes 
> out some humliation, but insted of humiliating James back (infront 
of 
> the girl he likes) Severus strikes to cause injury. To me that 
implys a visiousness beyond the senseless idiocy/cruelty of being 15 
and the big man on campus.

Me:

So, because of how Severus responded, that's a measure of how cruel 
James was? That implies that Severus at age 15 and humiliated, is in 
control enough to give measured, appropriate responses. I doubt that 
seriously.

Darrin





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