[HPforGrownups] OoP:In defense of James/ Snape

[Star Opal]

No: HPFGUIDX 62691

Calimora said:
>Actually, I was more interested in Snape's responce than James
>motivation. (Boys are prats, Teenage boys are bigger prats, and
>teanage boys trying to get girls define the word prat.) James dishes
>out some humliation, but insted of humiliating James back (infront of
>the girl he likes) Severus strikes to cause injury. To me that implys
>a visiousness beyond the senseless idiocy/cruelty of being 15 and the
>big man on campus.

I didn't see it so much as viciousness (as in premeditated blood spilling) 
as him snapping. "Snape reacted so fast it was as though he had been 
expecting an attack..." So, along with the fact Snape seems to be their 
favorite victim, this to me says the bullying happens quite often. (stay 
with me, I hope to make sense in a sec, no guarantees though)

They've just come from an exam, which it seems Snape takes as seriously as 
Hermione does, so he's high strung. Then he hears James calling him 
Snivellus, he knows what's going to be coming (and whatever the usual plan 
is it must be nasty, just look at Peter's anticipation). Then all of the 
hatred he feels, quite possibly five years worth, bubbles up and he reaches 
for his wand. But... he doesn't seem to be great at dueling... yet.

-I'll say right now I don't think Sev was all that great at Dueling up this 
point. Even if Sirius was right about him, knowing a lot about dark arts and 
actually performing them well are two different things. Would maybe this 
explain the "shooting down flies" memory? Was he practicing so he could get 
back at James? Maybe this is why he wanted DADA so much, to prove that he 
was just as good as anyone else at "silly wand waving", but still excelled 
at potions. Too much speculation not enough canon, let me get back on topic-

If my assumption is right, the wand reaching was a bad move. Not to mention 
he was out numbered. So studious, logical Snape loses control, gee, where 
have we seen him ever act like that?  Anyway, so skip ahead to Lily walking 
off. By now he has been embarrassed beyond normal human endurance, so he 
lets off something a little violent that ends up cutting James' face. I can 
just imagine the blood pounding in his ears, losing any thought to fact he 
might be hurting someone (not that he would care at this point) or breaking 
the rules, feeling nothing but anger. Kinda sounds like... Harry, doesn't 
it? *cough* Aunt Marge *cough*

As far as MWPP go I was unsurprised by Sirius, disappointed with Lupin, 
COMPLETELY disgusted with Peter (he really did seem on the verge of wetting 
himself for crying out loud!), and, well, both sickened and refreshed by 
James.

No, Darrin, while I admire your effort, don't defend James. I like 
Bully!James. I've only seen one other person post so far that they liked the 
fact that St. Potter turned out to be a massive slime (not only does he 
bully, but he tries to bargain leaving Snape alone for a date with Lily, 
what a jerk). I mean it, the whole while I was feeling sick and wishing to 
reach through the page to knock him a good one, inside I was grinning 
horribly at how nasty James turned out to be (at least at the age of 15, 
which is no excuse at all). I'm just odd like that.

Star Opal
who has played the part of Lily in far too many of those situations and is 
not a Snapologist believe it or not

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