OOP: Lupin/Luna and the Ravenclaws/Unforgiveables/handling girls

[Sabrina]

No: HPFGUIDX 63166

eric_and_lauri said:
Though, the Lupin we've met so far POA-OOP shows little emotion in 
general. I'm wondering if he is simply a stoic, and JKR is keeping 
him "in character" even with his friend's death.  

I know this is a very fanificcy approach but I always found it perfectly plausible that Lupin being a werewolf he has to control his temper and so on even when there is no full moon.
After years of doing that and especially considering that not having a temper can ensure you not to get into rows with your friends and lose their friendship, he probably is in this role so much that he can't get out of it.
At the same time the examples you brought of him comforting Mrs. Weasley and talking to the werewolf in St. Mungo's sgos that he does care. He just doesn't show it in any flashy gestures or anything but quite and calm. 
IMO opinion the same way he is grieveing about Sirius, he isn't there and trashing things but at the same time you notice that he is affected by the death. And who knows if at the next full moon he won't be sitting there howling at the unfairness of the world?
Or he could just have a calm character from brith on.



Rowen:
As for me, I feel that Luna may show up again as Harry's guide to 
the "Wonderful World of Death." She doesn't seem to be afraid of it 
at all (talks so causually about her mother's death) and also knows a 
bit (the people behind the veil). Think maybe her dad used to/does 
work for the DoMysteries? Interesting. Maybe all his stuff in the 
Quibbler is stuff the DOM is working on . . . .

IMO that just sounds a bit too much like Men In Black, after all there the secret agents also get part of their information from a magazine like the Quibbler. Actually that was the first thing I thought of when the magazine was described...

Rowen also mentioned:
Luna is the only close-to-exception but she's, well, Luna. She's smart, she knows some things but she sure hides it 
well under her wierdness!

But then most geniuses are considered weird by others just because they don't understand them (and no, I'm not saying that Luna is a genius because she is weird but considering that she is a Ravenclaw, it certainly is a possibility.) and think that being normal - meaning like the majority of people - is what everybody should want. And then there come these weirdos who don't care what other people think of them and destroy the whole plan... tsk,tsk,tsk.

Further in the post, Rowen said:
I am especially offended because I have always felt that I would be a 
Ravenclaw. 

But then I think JKR would consider herself also a Ravenclaw. I haven't heard anything about this in interviews, it's only an assumption. However, she does say that she feels closest to Hermione because she was similar in her youth. Now Hermione is certainly brainy and that is a characteristic that's usually associated with Ravenclaws, so I don't think JKR has it in for them. And perhaps she is only waiting for the great showdown to show everybody what Ravenclaws are made of.

Many, many posts later Calimora said:

The thing that desturbs me is the lack of Older students in the D.A. 
While I suppose there are some, the only ones with names are the ones 
we heard get sorted, or who are *already* linked to the Trio in some 
way.

I suppose the older students that didn't already know Harry would be a bit reluctant to get taught by a 15-year-old, wouldn't they? 



Richelle said:

On another topic, for the record, I think the key to the Unforgiveables is
something LeStrange said.  You have to enjoy it.  I think the AK would work the
same way, you would have to enjoy killing.  I don't see Harry that way, so I
think they'll have to find another way for him to kill Voldemort.  Power of love
or something noble. :)

I don't agree with you. While what Mrs. Lestrange said certainly holds true for the Cruciatus Curse, I don't think it's the same for the other two.
IMHO the Cruciatus Curse is the worst of the Unforgiveables, because pain or insanity is worse than death or slavery (with the first you don't care anymore and you can break out from the second). But apart from that in one of the other books (please don't aske me where!) we get to know that the Aurors in the first war with Voldemort were allowed to use Avada Kedavra. That can't be brought together with your theory that you have to enjoy killing to do it. IMO you only need enough power, training and have the mindset to know what the killing curse is going to cause, ie. an understanding of death.
This is also why I think that in certein circumstances Harry would very easily be able to cast Avada Kedavra. I think nobody is arguing with the idea that he has enough power and I also think he has the understanding of death (having lost several people and being in life or death situations himself). Only thing missing is the training.

Ignacio said:
Ok, I am a 16 year old male, and I have read a few of the older 
women's comments how they were just like Cho, and that Hermione was 
fairly accurate describing Cho's emotions. This has me worried 
because I could see a mile away that Harry was not exactly super- 
smooth talking about Cedric, but when Harry asked Cho to come with 
him to meet up with Hermione at Hogsmeade, that makes me scared.
I saw where Harry gaffed up except for that... I mean I have plenty 
of female friends who are just that! Friends! 

I think the whle thing wouldn't have been as bad if Harry had just said something around the lines "Yeah, Hermione, remember, the girl with the bushy hair who has been one of my best friends since first year." The way he said it, it sounded as if Harry had planned another date and wanted to take Cho along. And that's really insensitive.


Sabrina


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