[HPforGrownups] OOP - Dumbledore question

Helen R. Granberry helen at odegard.com
Wed Jun 25 02:43:32 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 63376




What did Dumbledore mean in the penultimate chapter when he tells 
Harry he knows/has seen more about what Harry gets upto than Harry 
thinks.

"Alive and Kicking"

ME:

I believe (and am being written off as a nutter by some of my fandom
friends because of it,lol) that Harry and DD have a prior relationship.
That is... that Dumbledore is really Ron. So, DD knows pretty much
everything Harry gets up to. He has been watching him closely because...
he was there the first time. I recently discovered this theory actually
has a name -- REDHEAD ALWAYS. Don't ask me what it stands for, I don't
know. However, I am a huge fan of this theory, and I have collected some
pre-OotP evidence (still working on the post-OotP evidence, but there is
a lot of good stuff in that penultimate chapter):

Resemblance:

Both Ron and Dumbledore are always described as being tall, skinny with
long noses. Dumbledore is also described as having long fingers, while
Ron is described as having large hands and feet. Long hands=long
fingers. Of course, we all know that DD was once a redhead from the
Riddle Diary scene in CoS. There are only two holes in need of plugging
here: we don't know Ron's eye color (DD has blue eyes) and DD has had
his nose broken. Comb every single description of these two characters
in all four (soon to be five) books and a pattern emerges... 

Omniscient Dumbledore:

He knows everything. EVERYTHING. Was he *really* invisible when Harry
and Ron looked into the Mirror of Erised? Or was he there the first time
as Ron? Can he really see through invisibility cloaks, or did he know
that Harry and Ron were hiding beneath one in Hagrid's hut in CoS? How
did he seem to know what was going on in PoA? Believing Sirius'innocence
even before Harry and Hermione told him? Eyes twinkling even BEFORE
Buckbeak got away? How did he know in PS/SS precisely when to come and
save Harry from Voldie? How did he know Riddle was evil, despite
everyone seemingly thinking him a Golden Boy?

Recurring patterns from book to book...

Animagi -- touched on in book one, vitally important in books three and
four

Polyjuice -- touched on in book two, vital to book four

Phoenix tears/song -- important in two, repeated in four

Time travel is coming back, folks!


The vomit flavored bean... or the final straw that made me a True
Believer:

Several weeks back, TLC posted a link to the new Famous Witches and
Wizards cards that JKR provided the information for. Like a good little
Harry Potter fiend, I went and had a looksee. Lo, what did I behold? A
card for Bertie Bott, inventor of the Every Flavor Bean with a birthdate
in 1935! If you will recall, Dumbledore tells Harry in the hospital wing
at the end of PS/SS that he lost his taste for the EFB's after coming
across a vomit flavored bean in his youth. In his YOUTH! Now, we know DD
is old, but round about a hundred is most certainly not his 'youth' by
any stretch of the imagination. There is just no way. The card is either
a Flint or... DD lived his youth in the twentieth century. 

Check out the text here: 

http://www.restrictedsection.com/otherHPstuff/chocfrogs.htm

So what happened? At some point, Ron would have to be sent back in time.
Why? Who knows? Possibly to save Harry... possibly by his older self in
a great big time paradox. Maybe it was an accident. At any rate, he is
sent way far back in the past and... becomes DD. Comes up with the uses
for dragons blood, works with Flamel, defeats Grindewald and all that
good stuff. Eventually he becomes Headmaster at Hogwarts and waits for
Harry and his younger self to arrive.

This theory is way out there. It has all of the problems anything having
to do with time travel has. As much as I love the theory, it is not
without major questions. However... wouldn't it be just so darn cool?





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