OotP Spoiler -- - Connecting the Dots

[dudemom_2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 64021

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ronale7" <ronale7 at y...> wrote:
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Ronale Stevens says:  In my U.S. 
> edition, this is on page 841.
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>    "THE ONE WITH THE POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD AP-
> PROACHES. . . . BORN TO THOSE WHO HAVE THRICE DEFIED HIM, BORN AS 
THE 
> SEVENTH MONTH DIES . . . AND THE DARK LORD WILL MARK 
> HIM AS HIS EQUAL, BUT HE WILL HAVE POWER THE DARK LORD KNOWS 
> NOT . . . AND EITHER MUST DIE AT THE HAND OF THE OTHER FOR NEI-
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> CAN LIVE WHILE THE OTHER SURVIVES. . . . THE ONE WITH THE POWER TO 
> VANQUISH THE DARK LORD WILL BE BORN AS THE SEVENTH MONTH 
DIES. . . ."
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> Now let's look at some of those tricky words:
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> vanquish
> does not mean to kill.  It means to overcome in battle, to gain 
> mastery over someone.  Sure it suggests a complete defeat, but, I 
> repeat, it does not suggest a death.
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> mark
> can also mean to take note, as in "mark my words."
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> know
> can mean to understand, to recognize, to be familiar with, to have 
> experience of
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> hand
> can be metaphorical or literal
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> Thus we have no reason to believe the power that can vanquish the 
> Dark Lord will necessarily kill him.  We can believe that this 
power 
> is something Voldemort either doesn't recognize or have any 
> experience with.  We can consider that Voldemort took note of the 
two 
> boys, Neville and Harry, and that Harry's scar is not what "mark" 
> refers to.  And finally, we can decide whether the hand mentioned 
is 
> literally the silver hand Voldemort gave Wormtail or a metaphor 
> meaning the cause of an action.
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> Let me give my translation of that prophecy.  I will make no 
attempt 
> to be poetic.  But I will try as hard as I can to make my meaning 
> clear:
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> A child with the power to defeat Voldemort will soon be born.  
Also 
> soon to be born is another child, whose parents have defied 
Voldemort 
> three times.  This child will be born at the end of July.  
Voldemort 
> will take note that the two children are equally threatening to 
him, 
> but he will not realize that one of them has a power that he, 
> Voldemort, doesn't understand or know how to use.  For this power 
is 
> alien to Voldemort, which makes the Dark Lord very different, an 
> Other.  One of these children must die because of Voldemort, and 
> neither child can live if Voldemort survives.  The child with the 
> power to defeat the Dark Lord will be born at the end of July.
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> Okay, I'm going into hiding after all that.  My apologies for its 
> being so long.  Hope someone reads it.  And makes kind comments.
> 
> --Ronale Stevens

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As I see it from what you said either Neville or Harry must die 
because of Voldemort. Both will die if he survives. Therefore it is 
possible his defeat won't come from Harry personally but from 
Wormtail because he has to make a decision between the two (LV or 
HP) and Harry has already spared his life so he owes him a debt.

My two knuts.....

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Dudemom_2000