OoP: More on the Slytherin "cariacture"

Jeannette (jetso) jetso at snail-mail.net
Thu Jun 26 18:15:50 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 64397

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" <bard7696 at a...> 
wrote:


> 


> Joan: 


> > We've only seen four Slytherins thus far: Draco Malfoy, Pansy 


> > Parkinson, Crabbe, and Goyle.  Would you get a proper sense of 


> > Gryffindor House if the only ones we'd met were Lavender Brown, 


> > Parvati Patil, Seamus Finnegan, and, say, Dean Thomas?  
Considering 


> > the actions (and lack of) we've seen from those four, I highly 


> > doubt it.  Declaring Slyth house completely rife with evil on the 


> > basis of the four little evil brats we've been introduced to is 


> > jumping to an extreme conclusion.


> > 


> 


> We've seen, besides those four:


> 


> Millicent:  Bully and member of the Junior Inquisitor League.


> 


> Flint: Cheating Quidditch Player.


> 


> Rest of Slyth team: Cheating Quidditch Players.


> 


> Lucius and the rest of the DEs: former Slyths.


> 


> And again, if JKR wanted us to have a "good Slyth" right now, she'd 
have 


> given us one.  (the closest we have is ambiguous!maybe!Slyth Snape.)


> 


> And, as has been pointed out, among the least complex, most 


> straightfowardly evil characters in the book are Crabbe, Goyle, 
Draco and 


> Pansy. 


> 


> I'm going on the evidence we have so far, not on what we hope the 
blank 


> spots will eventually reveal. 


> 


> So, I'm thinking why there hasn't been a good Slyth kid yet, and I'm 
suggesting 


> that maybe there is some indoctrination going on that Dumbledore, 
Harry and 


> the rest of the good guys are going to have to break through.


> 


> Again, the Sorting Hat, containing the essence of Salazar, picked 
Draco as a 


> Slyth before the hat even settled on his head. That tells me Salazar 
thought 


> Draco an ideal Slyth.


> 


> And that says all kinds of lousy things about Slytherin.


> 


> Darrin






Students get put into a House more on choice than on ability. (EG: 
Harry, probably Hermione - since she seems very much a Ravenclaw at 
heart... etc) Thus, one can conclude that it is the reputation of a 
House that fills its ranks.




"Evil" people will naturally be drawn to Slyth due to the fact of its 
reputation, rather than that is where ambitious and ruthless people 
go, since by definition, Slyth are only supposed to be ambitious and 
ruthless (Crabbe and Goyle aren't exactly ambitious...)




Before Voldemort, I believe, before Slyth gained its Very Very Evil 
reputation, there would be less "bad" people in Slytherin. It would 
have just been the House of the ambitious. The same way that Ravenclaw 
is the House of the studious.




Just my two Knuts.







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