Reading Minds/ was OOP: Re: Crazy Neville Theory

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No: HPFGUIDX 64932

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "woodsie426" <kmeier at l...> 
wrote:
> But Voldemort's appearance brings up another question...Snape told 
us 
> > that magic can't be used to read minds, but how else would 
> Voldemort 
> > have known that Harry had destroyed the prophecy.

 
> Star:  
> 
> Voldy cannot 'read minds' as Snape tells us... 

Snape tells Harry that The Dark Lord is highly skilled at 
Legilimency, which is *the ability to extract feelings and memories 
from another person's mind.* Snape also says -*It is true, however, 
that those who have mastered Legilimency are able, under certain 
conditions, to delve into the minds of their victims and to interpret 
their findings correctly.* Wouldn't this be considered some type of 
mind reading?  Snape - *The Dark Lord, for instance almost always 
knows when somebody is lying to him.* Occlumency enables a person *to 
shut down those feelings and memories that contradict the lie, and so 
utter falsehoods in his presence without detection.*

How many times have we discussed whether or not Snape could read 
minds? If you go back to the previous books you will find that Harry 
mentions he has the feeling Snape can read he mind. Same thing for 
Dumbledore. In CoS, Chapter 9 -* Dumbledore was giving Harry a 
searching look. His twinkling light-blue gaze made Harry feel as 
though he were being X-rayed.* Now we know Dumbledore is also 
accomplished at Legilimens. So then is Legilimens only the ability to 
detect when someone is lying to you or is there some type of mind-
reading going on? For instance, Snape discovered that Harry had been 
dreaming about the door to the Dept of Mysteries (mind reading?) and 
Snape was able to see many of Harry's memories, just as Harry was 
able to see some of what was in Snape's mind. However, there is this 
encounter between Snape and Harry in OoP- *His cold, dark eyes were 
boring into Harry, who met his gaze unflinchingly, concentrating hard 
on what he had seen in his dream, willing Snape to read it in his 
mind, to understand...* But Dumbledore says it was the 'cryptic 
warning' Harry gave to Snape that made Snape realize Harry had had a 
vision of Sirius being trapped. So here we have Harry trying so very 
hard to have Snape read his mind and yet D. say's it was the cyrptic 
warning that alerted Snape. Does that mean Snape couldn't read 
Harry's mind at the time even though Snape was obviously trying to do 
that? I must admit I'm a bit confused about it. 

Regardless, Voldemort does have the ability to detect when someone is 
not telling him the truth.  

"K"