OoP: End of Book 7 and Harry's Scar

tigerpatronus tigerpatronus at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 27 14:32:34 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 64938


Wild speculations
And the end of book seven
Touch the quiet heart




> > julievette72 wrote:
> > > Now, wouldn't it be a shocker for possibility 1 and 2 to be
combined? What if Harry vanquished the Dark Lord, say? by pushing him 
into the Black Veil <SNIP> and then decided it was his time to go 
too? <SNIP> it would give the book more closure I suppose.  <SNIP> On 
a side note, after Harry defeats Voldemort maybe his scar will burn 
up thereby closing the link between them and completing his destiny.

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "T.M. Sommers" <tms2 at m...> 
wrote:
> > Almost exactly what I have been thinking, with the difference of 
the scar: After V is killed, he becomes a ghost, but is still 
connected to Harry by the scar.  V is also filled with rage and agony 
at being dead, so H is in constant pain (he never kept up his 
occlumency lessons).  This constant pain, added to the psychological 
scars from the war, induces him to pass through the veil.  Not unlike 
Frodo going west. I forgot to mention how this fits with the 
prophecy: H can't live while> V survives (as a ghost).

Now my humble theories: 

Here's an unsettling thought: (Bear with me while I get there)

It's been assumed that HP and Voldy are connected by that scar. This 
scar connection between V and HP is the reason for HP's Occlumency 
lessons (OotP, Am HC, p519), and seems to be an emotional connection 
that activates when Voldemort is "close by, or feeling particularly 
murderous (GoF, Am TPB p706). Thus, it is a magical connection, 
perhaps symbolised by the twining snakes that Dumbledore sees and 
comments "in essence divided" (OotP, Am HC, p470). Thus, it is 
suggested that V is actually part of that scar, and this is further 
supported by Harry's murderous reaction to Dumbledore that congruent 
with V's own responses, when "Harry's scar burned white-hot, ... a 
hatred so powerful ... to strike -- to bite [Dumbledore]" (OotP, Am 
HC, p474-5). 

The scar is also a source of power for HP. "[Voldemort] transferred 
some of his own powers to [HP] the night he gave [HP] that scar. Not 
something he intended to do"(CoS, AmTPB p333). These transferred 
powers probably include HP's Parseltongue ability, as V and HP 
are "the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great 
Slytherin" (CoS, Am TPB p317). Thus, Harry derives both V's thoughts 
and some powers from the scar. 

The prophacy foretold that a "marked" child would have the power to 
defeat V. In choosing HP rather than NL to kill, the scar became a 
tangible artifact of the prophacied connection between Voldemort and 
HP. "In marking you [HP] with that scar, he did not kill you, as he 
intended, but gave you powers, and a future, which have fitted you to 
escape him not once, but four times so far--" (OotP, Am HC, p842). 
Thus it is established that HP and Voldemort are connected by the 
prophacy, and the scar marking HP is part of the prophacy. 

The prophacy continues that "And either must die at the hand of the 
other for neither can live while the other survives" (Prophacy from 
OotP, Am HC, p841). This kill-or-be-killed ultimatum is the "future" 
to which Dumbledore refers. Thus we have established that either V or 
HP must die at the hand of the other. Indeed, Dumbledore knew that V 
was not dead at the beginning of the saga, "Did I believe Voldemort 
was gone forever? No. I knew not whether it would be ten, twenty, or 
fifty years before he returned, but I was sure he would do so, and I 
was sure too, knowing him as I have done, that he would not rest 
until he killed you" (OotP, AmHC, p835). Thus, either HP murders V, 
or vice versa. According to the prophacy and as is obvious by events, 
either HP or V must be utterly destroyed. 

However, a part of V exists within Harry's scar because it not only 
channels V's emotions but bears some of his powers. Voldemort cannot 
be completely vanquished until that scar is gone. 

Here's the scary part: It has been suggested several times that, when 
V is finally vanquished, Harry's scar will fade because it connects 
them, and that's a nice ending. But Dumbledore says that Harry 
will "have that scar forever" (SS, AmTPB, p15). Indeed, when asked, 
Dumbledore says that he cannot change the scar and would not if he 
could. JKR is not known for nice, easy endings. Children's literature 
is not known for nice, easy endings. 

Thus, the scar cannot fade or be removed. Harry cannot entirely 
destroy Voldemort until the scar, too, or the person bearing it, is 
gone, and at least one of them has to die.

Harry must die, too. 

TK 













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