OOP: Re: She wouldn't---would she?---SPOILERS!

crazyredcurry crazyredcurry at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 27 23:03:47 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 65178


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "tigerpatronus" 
<tigerpatronus at y...> wrote:
> 
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "maneelyfh" 
<maneelyfh at y...> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hints that Harry may die:
> <SNIP> 1)In POA...before Harry knew the big black dog was Sirius, 
he 
> > thought he was a sign of his death a"grim" <SNIP>> > 
> > > 2)In OOP, the first prophecy that broke. pp 748-749 us 
> editon, "at the soltice will come a new" and "none will come after"
> > > fhm
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
> <harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
> > Me: 1) Harry didn't even know what the grim was until it was 
> pointed out to him in the bookstore; all he thought he saw was a 
dog. 
> During class that was when Prof. Trewlawney pointed out the grim to 
> him, but he knew what it was before then (pls correct me if I'm 
wrong 
> & I will go back & reread PoA). 
> > 2) We all know (well I think we do) that the solstice can happen 
> two times during the year, the summer solstice (June 21-longest day 
> of the year) & the winter solstice (Dec. 21-shortest day of the 
> year). <SNIPPAGE>> 
> > I'm leaning towards Harry surviving while many of his friends 
die – 
> > then again that may just be wishful thinking.
> > Fan
> 
> 
> Me: 
> 
> Personally, I am coming down squarely on both sides of this issue. 
It 
> seems that there are many signs and a line of logic that Harry must 
> die in order to vanquish LV once and for all. See my verbose post 
> with an annotated essay on this (#64938). There is also a lot of 
> Christ imagery in these books, starting with the three wiseguys 
> leaving HP on the Dursley's doorstep (PS, DD, McG, and Hagrid), and 
> we all know how that story ends. 
> 
> However, even if this is a Christ-story, this is the postmodern 
> literary era and the HP epic is a postmodern fantasy (I have to 
write 
> that essay at some point, too.) One of the major tenets of the 
> postmodern novel is a revisionist interpretation of grand 
narratives, 
> so Harry might not die. 
> 
> Here's something for JKR to consider: killing off our favorite 
> character may not get you out of writing more books about him. 
Arthur 
> Conan Doyle killed Sherlock Holmes, yet the public demanded more 
> books, so his publisher made him write them. The same for Michael 
> Moorcock and Elric of Melnibone. 
> 
> Whether Harry dies at the end of HP7 and whether there will be more 
> books may be two different topics. 
> 
> TK

Don't forget the other little piece of evidence pointing to Harry's 
death:
The divination teacher Trewalney (sp?) keeps insisting on seeing 
Harry dying an early death. Now that we know she actually produced 
something legit (THE prophecy) doesn't this make her other 
predictions hold more water?

Keith






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