OOP: Something that disturbed me

[spedlegs4169]

No: HPFGUIDX 65220

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "David" <dfrankiswork at n...> 
wrote:
> Marina:
> 
> > > Okay, here's something I haven't seen brought up yet: am I the 
> only  
> > one who was disturbed by the way Kingsley just blithely rewrote 
> > Marietta's memory in "The Centaur and the Sneak" chapter?>
> 
> Jenny:
> > 
> > No, you're not the only one.  I was actually hoping something was 
> > wrong with Marietta herself in that scene and that's why she said 
> > nothing.  I didn't have any problem with Hermione's spell, though.
> > 
> > I noticed that in OoP, people in the Order and on 
> > the side of Good in general do things that are sneaky, unfair, or 
> just 
> > plain mean.  Harry's use of the Cruciatus Curse still bothers me, 
> as 
> > does Sirius's recklessness and encouragement of Harry to break 
> rules 
> > at school.  All I can say to justify these things is that in 
times 
> of 
> > war, people do what they have to do to survive.  Had Marietta 
told 
> the 
> > MoM people what she and her peers had been doing all year, the 
> > consequences would have been very bad.  
> > 
> > I think we'll be seeing more sketchy behavior in books 6 & 7, and 
> I'm 
> > willing to bet Harry will be a part of that.
> 
> But these things are quite different.  We don't know how Harry 
feels 
> afterwards about his use of Crucio, whereas it's fairly clear that 
> the members of the order feel Kingsley's use of Obliviate is 
> justified by the circumstances.  Sirius' recklessness and 
> encouragement of Harry are different again: expressions of his 
> character that he can't or won't control.
> 
> To me the crucial difference is that the story makes clear that 
> Sirius recklessness was indeed destructive, and that Crucio is 
> always wrong, so warning bells ring for Harry.  However, it's 
> difficult to rid oneself of the sneaky feeling that this memory 
> charm thing is never really going to be resolved morally - in 
> effect, that JKR treats it as lightly as the WW does.
> 
> David



i think harry's use of the Cruciatus curse is completely justified.  
Lestrange was "famous" for her use of the Cruciatus Curse on the 
Longbottoms.  Harry did the curse for Neville, and for himself, 
because Lestrange was the one that sent the spell at Sirius and 
knocked him through the archway.  Sirius' recklessness was justified, 
not smart but justified.  He had been locked up in Azkaban, and now 
he was locked up in his own house.  Voldemort knew he was an 
Animagus, so he couldnt even go out as a dog.  That is what made him 
reckless.