OOP: The case for a Ron - Luna Ship

Sat Jun 28 17:05:24 UTC 2003

No: HPFGUIDX 65412

About the Ron/Luna thing, I think it would very interesting to see it 
develop (I'm a supporter of Ron/Hermione) maybe because that was 
Hermione could understand a little more her feeling for Ron (if she 
has feeling for him)

Also Ron has never had someone that is visible interested in him, and 
he seems to be always the one that wonder about the other's personal 
life but he does not have one. I mean Harry had Ginny and Cho, 
Hermione have Vikor but Ron doesn't have anyone. I would be happy to 
see Ron with someone like Luna but not to end up with her; especially 
because I want to see Hermione jealous of it.

For the whole Harry/Luna, I think Harry is going to take her like a 
sister who he can talk to, and also to protect for all the people 
that hide her stuff, it would be very nice to see that side of Harry, 
is it happen that is.

Ximena (who is trying to figure out what she is going to do until 
book 6)

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "marephraim" <leef at c...> wrote:
> Debbie wrote:
> > 
> > Wasn't Luna totally hitting on Ron the entire book?? I think it's 
> > Luna/Ron to Hermione/Krum. I'm not saying that these people will 
> > end up as couples; I still think it will be H/R. But until Ron 
> > realizes his feelings for Hermione, she's going to keep Krum to 
> > get him jealous, while Ron will use Luna to get Hermione jealous. 
> > Ahh... the fun times in youth.....
> > 
> > However, I think Luna could end up with Neville. He'll have the 
> > same characteristics she likes in Harry, after Ron dumps her 
> > (after never really going out with her in the first place).
> > 
> 
> IIRC, there has been considerable discussion of the possibility 
that 
> no pairing of the Trio would ship due to the intricacies (sp?) of 
> their 'working relationship;' they're too involved with each other 
> as friends and companions on the quest to defeat the Dark Lord to 
> ever make that (hollywood-ish) leap to romantic interest. Yet 
people 
> still discuss their favourite possible pairings. Until OOP, I was a 
> firm R/Hr shipper. However, this book propells me to solid Ron/Luna 
> shipper status. 
> 
> Points to consider (using the UK edition):
> 
> Pages 168-170 Luna gives the customary "You're Harry Potter" 
> response to meeting Harry, and merely ends the conversation after 
> being introduced to Neville. She only shows further interest 
vaguely 
> when Neville attempts to show off his potted plant. 
> 
> But p. 171, after being out of the loop conversation-wise 
> for 'nearly and hour' (p. 170) she re-emerges to speak to Ron. Note 
> particularly the quote ' "She doesn't think you treated her very 
> well, because you wouldn't dance with her. I don't think I'd have 
> minded," she added thoughtfully, "I don't like dancing very much." '
> 
> On p. 172, "nobody laughed harder than Luna Lovegood" at Ron's 
joke. 
> Ron is so unprepared for the degree of her appreciation at this 
that 
> he even questions whether she's making fun of him. When Harry asks 
> to borrow her magazine, "She nodded, still gazing at Ron, 
breathless 
> with laughter." (p. 173) Later, she volunteers to take Ron's owl 
(p. 
> 177) thus ensuring that she'll have another contact with him.
> 
> Note that in Harry's conversation with Cho (and Luna) pp. 350f, 
Luna 
> really seems to be just chatting, perhaps boasting, but IMO, not 
> attempting to impress Harry particularly.
> 
> At the Slytherin-Gryffindor Quidditch match, Luna supports 
> Gryffindor, but in offering her best wishes she particularly speaks 
> to Ron: "Anyway ... good luck, Ronald!" (p. 357) Note the hesitancy 
> and use of the formal name, versus the more informal "Ron" which 
> indicates she intended to get his attention. Her only show of 
> support otherwise is to wear an eagle at the Gryffindor-Ravenclaw 
> game (p. 602)
> 
> Some have remarked that the mistletoe incident shows Luna has an 
> interest in Harry. Not so. She notices the mistletoe and when 
Harry, 
> under the mistaken impression that she would to kiss him, jumps 
> back... ' "Good thinking," said Luna very seriously, "It's often 
> infested with Nargles." ' (p. 400)
> 
> The Hogsmeade Weekend.... Hermione has arranged for Rita Skeeter to 
> do an interview with Harry, which Luna will ensure her father 
> publishes. Ron is absent from this meeting due to Quidditch 
> practice, yet note that while Harry, Rita nd Hermione are 
discussing 
> the interview (amidst Hermione and Rita's sniping at each other), 
> Luna "sang 'Weasley is our King' dreamily under her breath and 
> stirred her drink with a cocktail onion on a stick." (p. 500) 
Months 
> after the match, Luna is still thinking about Ron. And when the 
> article is published, she goes to the Gryffindor table and squeezes 
> in to sit "on the bench between Fred and Ron." (p. 510) There seems 
> clearly to be a natural attraction at work here.
> 
> (As an aside to the Luna+Neville shippers, note that when Harry and 
> the gang are captured by Umbridge, Neville is capture for '"trying 
> to stop me taking her," he pointed at Ginny...' (p. 654))
> 
> During the set up for Harry's attempt to discover if Sirius has 
been 
> taken by You Know Who, Luna asks several questions (not knowing the 
> back-story) which Harry completely ignores. Later in the forest 
when 
> she asks who Gawp is, it is Ron who answers her (he thinks higher 
of 
> her than Harry?). (p. 670) When Luna persists in noting that they 
> can fly to London it is Ron who engages her in argument, not Harry 
> (p. 671). This shows that Ron is more aware of her than Harry. 
> 
> In the fight at the MoM, when the group become separated, initially 
> it is Ron, Ginny and Luna are together (p.695-697) (I admit this is 
> a bit weak, but I see the author's hand at work in the grouping.) 
> When the group are reunited and Luna is explaining to Harry and 
> Neville what happened to them the only time a real emotion is 
> mentioned for her is when she tell what happened to Ron (p. 702)
> 
> And finally, the Luna-Harry encounter... People seem to have read a 
> lot into this conversation, but if you consider it objectively, 
> Harry and Luna both have experienced death, and Luna notes that her 
> mother's death was "rather horrible." (p. 760) This is two people 
> who can speak about a topic (death, mourning, etc.) because they 
> both have experience with it. Harry can't identify with Hargrid 
(age 
> difference), and can't discuss it with Ron and Hermione who have 
> never experienced it like Harry, so discussing it with Luna is a 
> natural. He might just have easily discussed it with Neville, but 
> the "Neville searching for the ever lost Trevor" bit has been done, 
> yes?
> 
> In all, Harry's encounters with Luna have no more spark of romance 
> than his encounters with Sunan Bones. Yet Luna is revealed to have 
> at least the semblance of a preoccupation with Ron. I think there 
is 
> more significance to Ron's answering her question at the MoM in 
that 
> while Harry and Hermione totally ignore her at this point, he is 
> aware of her presence and accepts her as a member of the group.
> 
> And note: for all you Harry/Hermione shippers out there, a Ron/Luna 
> ship would be the perfect avenue to allow such a ship to develop. 
As 
> someone pointed out, JRK perhaps, she's the perfect 'anti-Hermione' 
> temprament-wise.
> 
> MarEphraim
> (who's fingers are aching from the fast page-turning to accumulate 
> all the evidence)