[HPforGrownups] Re: OOP: James( was:Two-way Mirror and other frustrations)

[Jesta Hijinx]

No: HPFGUIDX 65725

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> > If there's anything that Rowling is consistent with in almost all
> > the books so far, it's that Harry will at some point discover that
> > he was wrong about something concerning Snape. He found that Snape
> > wasn't the real villain in Philosophers, that he was not trying to
> > poison Lupin in PoA and that he is on the side of the light in GoF.
> > It was time to find out that he had been telling Harry the truth
> > about his father in OotP.
> >
> > I do find it hard to see James' noble nature in "Snape's worst
> > memory". The fact that James was trying to woo Lily does prevent me
> > from immediately seeing him as a valiant defender of muggleborns
> > everywgere. And considering that the ones reassuring Harry of
>James'
> > good nature are Black and Lupin, has little value considering that
> > they obviously participated in bullying Snape and still refuse to
> > feel any guilt about it.
> >
> > Mim
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>Many of my friends are all discussing this "memory" with great
>relish.  It seems to paint James as an arrogant git and Snape as a
>victim.  It seems to me that the pensieve is a way to see into
>someone's memories.  In this case it was Snape's memory.  Could it be
>that Our least favorite professor is not recalling this incident with
>a complete truthful interpretation of the events.  Any two people
>witnessing the same event will remember it in different ways.
>Perhaps, just perhaps there was more to that incident than we've seen
>so far.
>
I have to agree that I'm wondering if the Pensieves are truly objective.  
Our memories are our memories, and they are based on our perceptions.

I'm wondering if we won't get a chance at some point to see how things 
looked from at least James' perspective (and I'd like to see Lily's as well 
- and mayb eLupin's).  Not that that will really excuse James and Sirius 
bullying.  However, I do have a point to make:  you can't just execute a 
couple of 15-year-old boys for bullying - you can work with them to get 
beyond that and try to make amends and not do it in the future.  But I think 
we all deserve second chances - Lupin and Sirius seem regretful and not 
proud of themselves, and they don't try to tell Harry that that's a good way 
to behave.  (Sirius isn't always asking harry, for example, if he's stuck it 
to Draco or why he doesn't lose that loser Neville.  In my book, he reformed 
and changed, and I'll bet james did too.)  Problem is, you can't undo what 
you've done - not even with a Time Turner, I'm guessing.  :-)

I'd be interested in seeing more of Snape always trying to hex James - that 
can't have been good - and I haven't entirely abandoned the thought that 
Snape had a thing for Lily, and the whole "insulting a mudblood" would have 
made it all that much worse for him.  Lily did try to stand up for him, and 
he insulted her for it - one thing I personally was surprised about was that 
Harry wasn't more upset about *that*.

Felinia

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