Our Not-So-Solid Rock Solid Predictions -- Thanks to Derannimer and Dicentra!

Cindy C. cindysphynx at comcast.net
Mon Jun 30 14:28:29 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66007

Hey,

Remember the "Rock-Solid Predictions" thread right before OoP was 
released?  How did we do, do you think?

Not so hot, apparently.  For your amusement, below is a list of 
everyone's predictions.

No, I didn't compile this list.  I did none of the work.  The credit 
for the list goes to Derannimer and Dicentra, who painstakingly 
recorded all of the predictions.  ::raises butterbeer to Derannimer 
and Dicentra::

I'll try to upload this list to the files section if I can.

Cindy -- wondering if we can declare a winner

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Cindy C.
The Put-Outer will be the key to the protection on Privet Drive, and 
Dumbledore will explain this to Harry in the course of "telling him 
everything."


hickengruendler
Neville witnessed his parents being tortured. Some death eaters put a 
memory charm on him, because he witnessed something very important 
about the attack of his parents. In OOP he will see Harry being 
tortured with the cruciatus curse by a Death Eater. This incident 
will bring back the memorys of the torture of his parents, because he 
has a déjà vu while seeing a victim of the cruciatus curse.


Steve (bboy_mn)
The reason Neville's parents were tortured is that Harry (and 
possibly Hagrid) stayed with Neville during the missing 24 hours, and 
that is what lead the DE's to believe the the Longbottoms might have 
some information about what happened to Voldemort.


Melanie Bond
[Ron] will start to get jealous of Harry and Hermione's relationship, 
even if there isn't one, [and] Ron will start to interpret 
interactions between the two of them as such. This will help to 
create even more conflict between Ron and Harry, and perhaps even 
cause problems on the Quidditch field. 


Morgan D.
The tragic demise of Dennis Creevey, which will lead his brother 
Colin to blame Harry for it.


Eileen
Lupin is going to die because of a choice of Harry's.


amy_marblefeet
[Lupin] will kill himself [because] Lupin is going to eat Denis 
Creevey.


Paul Prideaux
Dumbledore must also die as he's quite extensively refered to as 
looking old and tired in GoF.


Lady lyndi 
I will get my copy of OoP on June 21st and will have to re-read it at 
least 2 times before my hubby is allowed to touch it, by which time 
our second copy of OoP will have arrived from Amazon so I won't have 
to give up my copy for him to
read at all! Also, he will beg me not to reveal any spoilers to him 
when I start reading but after seeing my reactions to various 
passages will keep asking me to tell him what's happening. In 
addition, when he finally starts to read his copy, he will keep 
making comments hoping I will give him hints about what is coming. 


RhianynTheCat
Cornelius Fudge is a baddie.


jwilliamson.rm 
1. [Arabella Figg] is really Harry's godmother, the female friend of 
Lilly's that has been fulfilling her protective/godmotherly duties as 
his seemingly Muggle baby-sitter.

2. She is also of the same age group as Sirius, James, Lilly, Lupin 
and Snape - a part of the "old gang" Dumbledore mentions at the end 
of GoF - and was merely posing as an elderly Muggle woman.

3. Arabella was and will again be a part of a romantic triangle with 
Sirius and Snape. An additional layer to the already existing hatred.


Scott Peterson 
Ginny will finally join the trio. She will blossom into a beautiful 
young lady, and attract Harry's attention. Harry's interest in her 
will grow, and his infatuation with Cho Chang will be nothing but a 
distant memory.

Peter will fail LV, his master, one final time when Harry is almost 
in his grasp. He will finally become food for the snake.

Fudge will fade away as if he never existed. All will recognize the 
blunder it was to promote him to the Minister of Magic position, and 
few will follow him into oblivion. 

[Ron dies.]


Pippin
Karkaroff will be the first to die in OOP. Harry will get to watch 
via scar-o-vision as Voldemort does our Igor in.


Brian
[Hermione] will die during one of the mid-story escapades that the 
Trio seems to have in each of the books so far, and her death will be 
the final, galvanizing event to spur the entire MoM into action (both 
for the good and bad) [and] ahe comes back as a ghost in the last 
chapter.


Penny
FITD (or the romances will be muddled throughout OoP).


Trina
I believe Ginny will die while saving Harry's life.


Amanda
It will turn out that Snape loved Lily, still loves Lily, and 
protects Harry out of his love for her (possibly a promise he made 
her), despite how he hated James, still hates James, and is reminded 
of James every damned time he sees Harry. Staring at Harry is painful 
because Harry has his mother's eyes, which makes Snape even nastier 
as he deals with the conflicting emotions.
 
Snape is NOT a vampire.
 

Dicentra
Stoned!Harry


Heidi
We will learn more about wizarding careers - including what Lucius 
actually does, whether Molly works outside the home, or ever has, and 
what Lily and/or James did before they were killed. In other words, 
we'll have a larger look  into the greater wizarding world. 


Pickle Jimmy
Fred Weasley will die.


Debbie
Evil! Fudge. Not Death Eater Fudge. Just plain old "whatever I
have to do to keep and hold power even though I have no idea how to 
govern" evilness.
 
 
Daisy
I have *always* thought that Hagrid was going to die in 
Book 5, from the moment I finished GoF for the first time. I think he 
will die saving Dumbledore. 


Gail
Mr. Weasley and Bill will recruit a number of MoM employees 
(particularly Aurors!) who are tired of Fudge's lame politics and are 
ready to help Dumbledore in his fight against Voldemort. *Then* we're 
gonna see some kick-butt action. Included will be a *real* wizard's 
duel. *And*, if we're really lucky, Hagrid will get caught in the 
cross-fire.
 
 
Kneasy
Someone in the [Weasley] family is going to become
another Pettigrew character - and my money is on Percy - ambitious 
bureaucrat who will obey any order from a superior and would never 
cut any slack for anyone. 
 
And the result? Death of Ginny.


Brandon
Fudge will finally come to believe that Voldemort has
returned but, it will be right before Voldemort kills him.


Shelley, Tammy's sister
Ron confides his feelings for Hermione to Harry. Harry, torn
between Ginny and Cho, seeks out Hermione, privately, for some
female advice. Ron gets wind of the private chat, and interprets it
the wrong way. His jealousy explodes, and he LEAVES THE TRIO. Colin 
becomes Harry's new best buddy. When Voldemort makes his appearance, 
the Trio is faced with a chilling, sadistic choice. 
Voldemort has two hostages, and there's only a chance to save ONE of
them. Harry has to choose between saving Ron and saving Dennis
Creevey. 
 
Harry chooses to save Ron, of course, and too cute to live Dennis
dies. Colin, outraged at the betrayal by his hero, secretly meets with
Draco, and subsequently becomes the first Muggle-born junior Death
Eater.
 
 
Vivamus
We will visit St. Mungo's, and learn that Neville has a Memory Charm 
to block his memories of visiting his parents. Somehow (perhaps as a 
result of an encounter with Lockhart) the Memory Charms stop working. 

Neville returns to school knowing his parents' condition. He leaves 
school with Ginny Weasley on some kind of quest to help his parents. 
Neville will save his parents, who will be freed from their curse, 
but Neville will die, either in the process of 
saving his parents, or in the process of saving Harry. If he lives, 
he will no longer be an almost-Squib.
 
Ginny's relationship with Neville, and Neville's subsequent death, 
will help pave the way for H/G in the future.  


"Lorangell"
Trevor is the proud parent of a basilisk.


Clio 
1. Dumbledore will either be forced to step down by the Ministry or 
die  (of old age, mind you! NOT from a curse or in a confrontation).
 
His succesor will be Snape, who is back in the good graces of 
Voldemort, and will be supported by some influential DEs in the 
Ministry, but also by Dumbledore (if he is still around by the time 
of the  choice) and his friends in whatever comittee chooses the 
Headmaster.
  
Some questionable decisions by the new headmster will give Harry 
plenty of room to doubt Snape's loyalties and snoop after him.  

2. As for the predicted death: 
If it's not Dumbledore, who is my candidate of choice, it will be 
Lupin. And he will be killed (alternative: gravely injured, landing 
him in a coma in St. Mungos) by Pettigrew, who puts his silver hand 
to good use, probably choking Lupin. This will send Harry and Sirius 
into a guilt trip. Sirius will regret he didn't kill the rat in the 
Shrieking Shack, and Harry will be haunted by the knowledge that he 
prevented Pettigrew's death. He will also start to doubt Dumbledore's 
philosophy, which will lead to the much awaited all-out conversation 
he is having with Dumbledore in the end of OoP.         


JOdel
The major overall conflict for Book Five will be between 
Dunbledore and the Ministry rather than Harry and Voldemort. And it 
will take the Dementors' change of alliegance to knock Fudge's 
policies out of place.
 
By this time Dumbledore *may* have been forcably removed from his 
position as  Headmaster, in which case he might be reinstated at the 
end -- or he may be rendered inaccessible to Harry by being drafted 
to take over as interim Minister of Magic.

It will only be after the Dementor disaster that this book's 
Harry/Voldemort subtext becomes prominent, and will be the big 
dramatic climax to the book. 


Brief Chronicles
1. Krum and Hermione will have a slightly more complicated 
relationship, and it will parallel the relationship between the Von 
Trapp girl and Rolf, the Nazi, from "The Sound of Music."

2. Percy Weasley dies.


Corinth 
Arthur Weasley will, under
Dumbledore's directions, begin organizing ministry members to actively
fight Voldemort, against Fudge's orders. This will prove to be his
first major role in the fight against Voldemort, having played only a
minor role, if any, in the previous Voldemort war.


Felinia
Fudge is going to turn out to be a baddie, but through ineptitude and 
blindness, not any 
real deep-seated evil.

Fudge is going to buy it near the end of Book V - and because of 
other circumstances that have been   set up all along, the new 
Minister of Magic will be...Lucius Malfoy.
 

Marcia
Neville's parents were given the Dementor's Kiss. 
Shortly before they were Soul Sucked though, they told Neville some 
really important secret (probably a secret the DE's wanted kept 
secret but Neville's parents knew) with the Fidelius charm and wiped 
out his memory with powerful memory charms. Snape, 
during a potions class, will teach a potion that erases/detects 
memory charms and in that class, Neville will have to test his potion 
on himself.


Kristen
1. Neville comes into his own by recovering from the memory charm 
applied to him when his parents were attacked. We visit Neville's 
parents at St. Mungos and find out that his parents aren't as damaged 
as we thought. Lucius Malfoy has been paying the hospital to keep 
their real condition under wraps.

2. Percy gets duped by LV or one of his agents to help the dark side. 
Percy realizes in the end what he has done, but too late to prevent 
the death of Molly Weasley.
 

Derannimer
LOLLIPOPS, with Spy!Snape tried to warn James about the traitor 
variant.


Laura
Dumbledore will reveal that Snape was at the Potter's on the night 
Lily and James were killed, either trying to warn them or reinforce 
some side or another of his double agent role.
 

"K" (koinonia)
We won't find out many of the things we have been guessing about for 
the last years. We might not find out yet that Snape is a vampire and 
that Petunia is really a witch. Snape won't be a Hogwarts teacher 
next year.


Merlin
James and Lilly are not really dead. They were switched out of their 
bodies and then hidden away with another secret keeper performing the 
Fidelius charm because they suspected Peter.


"D" (dublinaaireland)
The Sorting Hat is a bit like the Pensive. The 
Sorting Hat is Dumbledore's brain/mind!


Brittney
1. Hermoine will be made a prefect.
 
2. Dumbledore will find himself (temporarily) out of the position of 
headmaster at Hogwarts.  

        
jbenne
McGonagall will die.


Rachel
Ron and Hermione will kiss.


Melody (melodychef)
Neville will die in the fifth book.


Kristi
Prof. Trelawney's first correct prediction was that the heir of 
Gryffindor would end the descendancy of Slytherin.


Marie
I'm going to go with 
the infamous Florence. I believe _she_ is going to be the new Dada 
teacher. Further, I think it is going to become important to find 
out who it was that Bertha Jorkins caught her kissing behind the 
Greenhouse (in Dumbledore's penseive in GOF). She could potentially 
be (or have been) involved in all sorts of love polygons,
but it could also just be a clue to her true allegiances. At any 
rate, I think that scene in the Penseive is going to end up meaning a 
lot more than just background on poor Ms. Bertha. 


Tyler
1. The boy lying in the flower bed is Dudley. He's lying there 
because he's unconcious after Dementors (sent by Fudge under pressure 
from Lucius Malfoy who is insisting that Harry murdered Cedric 
Griggory) storm the Dudley household. Harry casts a Petronus to drive 
the dementors away, but ends up facing MOM problems for using 
underage magic. 

2. Hagrid will be killed by a death eater (Lucius Malfoy?) after 
sticking up for Dumbledore. 


Richelle
Harry's knife that he got from Sirius for Christmas in GoF will come 
in VERY useful.


A Goldfeesh
When Ludo Bagman, ex-Quidditch hero and Ministy member gets killed, 
people will certainly take note. I haven't decided if he gets it as a 
good guy or ever-so-evil. I'm leaning toward he is good though.  


Wayne
Either Filch or Hermione catch Mrs. Norris and Crookshanks mating 
during OOP, they will have offspring, but some in the litter will be 
full blooded cats, some will be full blooded Kneazles, and some will 
be half and half.
 

Brass Gryphon
The "Sit down, I am going to tell you everything" talk is the same 
thing Dumbledore promised to tell Harry when he was ready in PS, Man 
With Two Faces. However, I also think that the reason Voldemort 
wanted to kill Harry is a 7th-book-level secret and thusly Dumbledore 
will be interrupted and die before he has a chance to get back to the 
conversation. 
 
 
Beckah
Something will happen between Harry and Hermione, and they will "take 
their relationship to the next level". This new relationship will 
infuriate Ron who will decide to "end" his friendship with both of 
them. Jealousy talking there. However, something will happen where 
Ron, because of his anger towards Harry, will put Harry in danger and 
he himself will get hurt trying to prevent injury coming to Harry. 
After all of this happens, the trio will see how foolishly they have 
been acting and make up...once again becoming best friends. Although 
I'm not discounting the Harry/Hermione relationship lasting 
longer.         


Edis
Something will happen in the book that can only happen on the night 
of 21st/22nd June. Maybe the special place that has been mentioned 
can only be visted on that night... Or predictions 
start coming concrete (its the time when people see ahead for life 
partners for example...)
 
But I think someone will play with potions to spectacular and 
unexpected effect. More specifically they will be herbology-based 
potions and the person causing the upsets will be an experimenting 
Neville.
 
Anyway, back in muggle reading worlds, determined readers will hit 
this part while it is still 21st June for them realtime...


Ginger
I'm going with the Florence theme too. I think we will find out that 
she was kissing Snape. (Oh, how I envy that woman!) And that she was 
actually a Muggle-born who he was seeing on the sly behind the 
Slytherins' backs. After they are caught, he is forced to renounce 
her, and she takes up with Sirius. (Now I really envy her) She is 
then killed by DE's (there went the envy), and Snape feels that she 
should have protected better by Sirius, who blames Snape, believing 
him to be involved out of jealousy. Thus their hatred towards each 
other. Her death is the thing that turned Snape 'round right.


Kelly Grosskreutz
We will find out more about Professor Binns. Mainly, that he was Tom 
Riddle's AK guinea pig. Something about this will come into play.


Izaskun
I think the boy lying in the flower bed is not resting, or thinking 
or just contemplating the wonderful sky above his head, it sounds 
like the typical description of calm before the storm to me. And I 
also think that in book 5 will see action pretty much from the 
begining, no long descripting and plot introducion chapters like in 
GoF.


David
Harry will spend a significant amount of time *during the school 
year* away from Hogwarts. He will be accompanied by Ginny.
 

Peg
Stoned!Harry.
  
Harry is *also* the heir of Gryffindor, and fated to destroy 
Voldemort. I do, however, believe that if Voldemort had known that 
Harry was the Secret Keeper for the spell he most wants, he wouldn't 
have tried to kill him. But he wouldn't have been able to get the 
information out of Harry, even if he spared his life. 
 
The Heir who is to be Voldemort's downfall turns out to be the "safe 
deposit box" for the one thing he wants most. Voldemort should really 
read the "Instructions for Evil Overlords." :)
 

Kirstini
Dobby will die.


Rehan
The Order of the Phoenix is a group of wizards. BUT, the order is 
comprised solely of Dark Wizards (mostly Death Eaters), and Voldemort 
is the head of this order. How does one gain membership into the 
Order of the Phoenix? Quite simply, they must rise from the dead. 
Voldemort will find the bodies of all the Death Eaters who died in 
his service 14 years ago. He will convert the bodies of Rosier, 
Wilkes, and whichever other DEs into their Ugly-Baby forms. Then, 
he'll put the Ugly-Babies into a potion like the one he made for 
himself, using the bones of their fathers, the blood of an enemy, and 
the flesh of a servant. This will resurrect them from their own ashes 
(their own bodies), bringing them back to life as members of the 
Order of the Phoenix.


Vinnia
Something big will happpen on Halloween. It will have a big impact on 
Harry's life, or at least will be very important to the plot. So 
we'll most probably hear about the Order of the Phoenix on this day. 
Either that, or Voldemort will launch his first attack on Halloween.


Fiona
Neville will die.


Toad
1. We'll find out all about the Bloody Baron.

2. There will not be a Weasley death. 


Lorrie
Alastor Moody will officially testify to the Ministry that it was 
Barty Crouch Jr, and Peter Pettigrew that came to his home and placed 
him under the Imperius Curse. Thereby, Fudge will have Moody placed 
in St. Mungo's for 'observation' because it appears he's finally gone 
Nuts! Seeing dead people...something MUST be wrong with him!
 

faux
We will find out more about Arthur and his past. We'll finally learn 
what he meant when he said "you have no idea, you're too young. Just 
picture coming home and finding the Dark Mark hovering over your 
house and knowing what you're about to find inside..." 
 
We'll also find out why Fake!Moody chose Ron when he was asking what 
the Unforgivable Curses are. 
 
We'll either discover someone in the family was AK'd or Imperio'd by 
Voldemore and his Death Eaters.
 

Betsy
Harry and Neville visit Neville's parents in St. Mungo's. . . . 
Neville saw his parents turned into "vegetables" by LV. Is is 
possible that they transferred their essence to Neville and Neville 
doesn't remember? Could it be that when Harry and Neville visit, it 
will come back to him and his parents restored to fight with the 
order againt LV?


.annie. 
a) there is going to be an Anti- Muggle campaign in Hogwarts 
 
b) we will gain knowledge of about the Giant Squid 
 
c) Either Ron (Eloise?) or Hermione (Neville?) will be kissed against 
their will -- or both of them *wink* -- that would be the two of them 
kissing each other during a row.
 
d) Hagrid's death causing the trio to cement -- for good -- after a 
*really* horrible dispute ::pipes         farmer in the dell::
 
e) Either Ginny or Neville will join the trio after a mountain-troll-
ish rescuing act. 


Jo Serenadust
Hermione's capture and blackmail of Rita Skeeter will turn out to 
have been a HUGE miscalculation.


Constance Vigilance
Dumbledore dies in an Obi-Wan Kenobi sacrifice.
 
Penelope Clearwater dies in some kind of crossfire incident, thus 
enflaming Percy into doing something stupid. But in a later book.


Maria
Hermione wiil be the Gryffindor prefect.


Ba 
1. Ron will snarl.
2. Hermione will moan.
3. Harry will recognize something instantly.
4. Hagrid will serve the trio something inedible.
5. Snape's eyes will glitter.
6. Dumbledore's eyes will twinkle.
7. Draco will sneer.
8. Molly Weasly will call Harry "dear."
9. Ginny will blush.
10. Percy will bluster.


Kia
1. Lupin is dead. And he is going to die heroically, but the majority 
of people will take the way he dies as evidence that he was an evil 
werewolf on the side of Voldemort. 
  
2. Lucius becomes the MoM. He will be ever so evil. 
 
3. Ginny won't survive this book.


Helen R. Granberry 
1. Hagrid will not die
2. The 'big death' will be a Weasley
3. Ron will have his nose broken
4. There will be absolutely no solid bf/gf relationships between R/Hr 
or H/Hr... the shipper wars will           continue unabated until 
the next book
5. The True Heir of Gryffindor will be revealed to be Lily, though 
the Potters are related
6. Hermione will be a prefect... she will also get the most OWLS


Linda
Hedwig is going to die as a result of some action or inaction of 
Harry's.






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