OOP: Pensieve POV discourse was James( was:Two-way Mirror )

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 66013

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> I have to agree that I'm wondering if the Pensieves are truly 
objective.  
> Our memories are our memories, and they are based on our 
perceptions.
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> I haven't entirely abandoned the thought that 
> Snape had a thing for Lily, and the whole "insulting a mudblood" 
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> made it all that much worse for him.  Lily did try to stand up for 
him, and 
> he insulted her for it - one thing I personally was surprised about 
was that 
> Harry wasn't more upset about *that*.
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> Felinia

Valky:
I would like to bring the above comments into address in this thread.
The two points of greatest interest are:

1. Harry had no personal reaction to the mudblood slur directed at 
his mother.

2. It is logical to call into suspicion, to some degree, the 
objectivity of the POV in a pensieve.

In order to start the ball rolling on the topics I would like to 
discuss related to the above points. I would like us to consider 
comparing the two pensieves we have seen Harry explore from the 
inside in the context of the memories they held.

In Snapes pensieve Harry manifested a view inside the memory of 
Severus Snape in an intense situation of mental anguish.
In this pensieve he focussed on his father as we would expect Harry 
to entirely, with admiration and curiosity. From the point where unto 
Severus focus was brought upon James, Harry began to focus very 
largely on Snapes feelings. To no degree did we observe Harry 
correlate his own personal experiences in Hogwarts and as Snapes 
student to the event. This rightly could be because of his strong 
feeling toward the injustice he percieved before him.
But, on this matter I would like to call to attention Harrys extreme 
reaction to Snape when he returned from the memory. He was absolutley 
terrified. The look on Snapes face again may have been the cause, but 
Harry has looked the most dangerous dark wizard ever directly in his 
murderous glare and stood his ground for longer than he did in this 
instance. Why did Brave!Tenacious!Harry turn tail and run so 
feverishly.
My theory is this, in a pensieve the recollection of the physical 
reality is exact and unadulterated. The focus of the witness however 
is from inside the mind of the memories owner. 
Meaning, prior to Severus attention being called to James his focus 
was on the exam. 
 
*An exam with a question that he may have been able to relate to 
Lupin's secret.* 

So I would say that Snape kept the exam because he was 
*curious*, and as Snape was at the time *curious* about the marauders 
Harry, coincedently, was also permitted to be curious about them.
 
*Harry's focus in the memory was on precisely the same thing as 
Snapes.* During the bullying scene, Snape was focussed on his own 
suffering at the hands of NB James in particular, not so much Sirius 
though he was there. Note his rebuttal is pointed at *James* not 
Sirius. Now as it happens, Harry's focus also was on Snapes suffering 
at the hands of James in particular.
Of course it is logical for Harry to focus on this in the way he did.
That can be argued. BUT................. 
it is also curious that he was not *at least* as interested in his 
mother as he was Snape. 
Then of course there is the curious lack of 
attention to the slur? Surely, Harry would have felt a *little* 
animosity toward Snivellus at that precise moment. But he doesn't. 

In support of statement above and in hope that I will interest others 
enough to discuss this further, Dumbledores pensieve.
In the first pensieve the memory is recorded by Dumbledore as a 
*sitting Juror*. Now, I don't know who could object, but, I could not 
imagine a more objective POV than Dumbledore putting his best into 
the cause of justice. Is this why we never noticed any change in 
Harry's perception before?


Anything to add anybody?