[HPforGrownups] WQ

[manawydan]

No: HPFGUIDX 53025

Shaun wrote:

> Well, consider IQ and a muggle school the size of Hogwarts - with 300 kids
(near the
> low end of estimates for Hogwarts size), the maximum IQ you would expect
in a school
> statistically be around IQ143. At 1000 kids (the general upper bound),
you'd expect
> somewhere around IQ149. Allowing for the fact that Hogwarts seems to be an
elite
> school with fairly stringent entry requirements... basically at most,
you'd expect about 1
> kid at around IQ160 at most in the school at any one time.

I wonder if it would have to be measured as Magical Quotient rather than
intelligence!

> Actually, Hermione comes up a bit in a lot of gifted discussion groups -
general view
> puts her at around IQ140-145 or so - very bright, capable of anything she
wants to do, if
> she's willing to do the work - and willing to do that work. The arguments
for that are very
> complex, and they are just arguments - no clear answers.

Given that IQ testing is so culturally specific, I would have thought that a
muggle-born person like Hermione would do extremely badly in a wizard IQ
test. Mind you, the reverse would also be the case. And that's even if you
assume that wizards have any concept of IQ anyway...

> Some parents might petition, if the talent can develop early. But just
because they
> petition, doesn't mean it happens. Weekly, I have to deal with kids whose
parents would
> love to see them in a more challenging environment - and where the doors
just aren't
> opened. Generally it comes down to bureaucracy - and the Wizarding World
seems to
> have enough of that going (-8.

Canon doesn't really help us with what happens to WW children before the age
of 11. One interesting point is that although WW children will have grown up
in an environment where magical methods for doing everything are the norm,
the muggle raised students don't seem to have any problem keeping up with
the wizard born, even though absolutely all the concepts are totally new to
them. I'm not sure why this should be. It can't be that the wizard talent
emerges at a certain age (like puberty) - as puberty doesn't arrive at any
fixed age, and we know that magical things happened to Harry long before he
arrived at Hogwarts.

Cheers

Ffred

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