Harry the Seer (WAS:Crystal ball)

Andrea ra_1013 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 3 19:44:43 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53091

--- Phyllis wrote: 
> I believe Harry has both the gifts of prophecy and prescience. He has 
> had numerous dreams in which he demonstrates his ability to know of 
> events occurring far away from him  for example, when he dreams of 
> Voldemort and Wormtail plotting his murder and witnesses Voldemort's 
> murder of Frank Bryce, and when he falls asleep in Professor 
> Trelawney's class and hears Voldemort and Wormtail discussing Barty 
> Crouch Jr.'s murder of Crouch Sr. Harry's gift of prophecy is 
> demonstrated in a dream about Professor Quirrell's turban (before he 
> becomes aware that Voldemort is underneath it), when he hears a high, 
> cold laugh and sees a burst of green light.  He also has an uncanny 
> ability to know when someone is nearby, even when he can't see the 
> person.
> 
> Whether or not Harry really predicted Buckbeak's survival is open to 
> debate, but I think the above examples are sufficient to deem him a 
> seer.

Personally, I think the above examples are sufficient to deem Harry very
connected to Voldemort, nothing more.  Each of the examples you cited were
a DIRECT connect to Voldemort, which have all been explained by the
connection to Voldemort embodied in Harry's scar.  The connection lets him
share Voldie's thoughts when Voldie is either close or feeling "especially
murderous", which explains the dreams about Frank Bryce and Voldie &
Wormtail's discussion.  The connection to Voldie also explains the dream
about Quirrel's turban -- Voldie was UNDER the turban, so he was
definitely nearby!  Whether the dream was an actual attempt by Voldie to
communicate with Harry or just Harry's unconscious mind interpreting what
it was sensing from the turban is debatable, but it still stems from
Harry's connection to Voldemort, not any mythical prophetic skills.

The only dream of Harry's we've seen so far that IMO has ANY connection to
possible prophetic abilities comes from POA when he heard hoofbeats in
connection to his father before finding out about Prongs.  However, I
think this is better explained by Harry's subconscious memories of his
parents before their deaths, which being around the Dementors has stirred
up.

I think it's asking a LITTLE too much for Harry to be a Seer on top of
everything else in his life, when these examples can be explained much
more easily by things that have already appeared in canon.


Andrea

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