Harry's Big Money Gift.... & more on money

siriuskase <siriuskase@earthlink.net> siriuskase at earthlink.net
Tue Mar 4 18:49:43 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53169

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Andrea <ra_1013 at y...> wrote:
> --- siriuskase wrote:
> > Now try on the point of view of someone who doesn't believe that Voldy
> > exists and therefore, Harry and Cedric's trip to the graveyard didn't
> > happen.  We know that this is the opinion of at least one of the
> > judges.  So what officially happened?  The simplest and likeliest 
> > thing is that the two contenders fought near the cup and Cedric was
> > killed before anyone ever touched it, then Harry sat there for awhile
> > thinking up the story and finally grabbed Cedric's hand, then the cup.
> >  Cedric never touches it, so Harry is the only winner unless you
> > believe the graveyard tale.  The Diggory's or the Ministry accepting
> > the money from Harry would imply that they must also accept his
> > version.
> 
> Well, I like your theory in principle, but it falls down in a few of the
> specifics.  It says in GOF Ch.35, "He had come back to the edge of the
> maze.  He could see the stands rising above him, the shapes of people
> moving in them, the stars above."  So Harry and Cedric disappeared from
> the center of the maze, and Harry reappeared with Cedric's body at the
> edge.  Fudge (and others) disagree as to what *happened* to Harry and
> Cedric after they disappeared, but not that Harry made the entire event
> up.
> 
> 
> Andrea
> 
Let me clarify - the nonbelievers believe in only one portkey trip,
the one from the center of the maze to the edge.  Cedric would have
been just about to touch it first before being killed.  Harry would
have waited awhile before getting a grip on Cedric's body then
grabbing the cup.  No one on the outside can see the action in the
center of the maze (remember two boys firing curses towards each other
at the relatively quiet spider between them, heard but not seen), they
only see Harry appearing with Cedric in one hand and the cup in the
other and the judges think that they know how the cup was programmed
to bring the winner directly out of the maze.

As a side note, who the hell would design a competition where so much
of the action can't be witnessed by either the judges or the spectators?





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