[HPforGrownups] DE Identification & the Cold War

Torsten sevothtarte at gmx.net
Tue Mar 4 18:57:54 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53173

Stacey wrote:
>Okay, this has probably been discussed before but I was wondering 
>about something.  If the DEs each have a mark, why have they not been 
>rounded up by the MoM in this way?  Let's say (as I agree) that this 
>is too easy and some hitch prevents it such as it is only visible to 
>them or V.  They still display this by what they call V.  In fact, 
>has anybody ever done a study cataloging what each character calls 
>him?  It seems that everyone who calls him The Dark Lord is either a 
>DE or a house-elf of a DE, while those aligned with Dumbledore call 
>him you-know-who (of course with a couple exceptions as Harry and 
>Dumbledore call him Voldemort).  But this does seem to be a pretty 
>consistent system and may be our clue to determining who spies and/or 
>traitors might be.  And while obviously in the book they could not 
>accuse people of being DE just based on what they call Voldemort, one 
>would think it would at least rouse their suspicion or allow for some 
>sort of magical search warrant?  

As for the Mark, it was apparently a secret (else Snape's explanation at the end of 
GoF), and even if the MoM knew about it, after Voldy's near-death the Mark 
vanished, or vanished mostly. It is connected to how strong he is, that's why it's been 
growing stronger throughout GoF, as again Snape says.

If the MoM knew about the Mark during VW I, I wouldn't put it past Crouch to have 
people line up for examination wether they have it. But that's just Crouch, others might  
prevent such a disgrace to happen, especially when it comes to the question wether 
honorable citizens like Lucuis Malfoy should have to undergo it. And while Pettigrew, 
Snape and Karkaroff all have it on their arms, this might not be the rule and the Mark 
might be in a place where it's more difficult to spot ("Mind if I shave your head, Mr 
Malfoy?")

>and everybody was a communist spy.  Interesting that our country in 
>many ways appears to be heading that way again in respect to 
>mideastern terrorists.  I wonder how much this factors into J.K.'s 
>thoughts as she is writing?  

She surely does approach difficult general topics - racism, prejudice - but I doubt she 
would and could fit any references to current events into her long-planned series. I 
know I wouldn't want her too.

-Torsten






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