"Re: hearing voices" <-- imagined? & text of the voices

[redandgoldlion]

No: HPFGUIDX 53214

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nobodysrib" <nobodysrib at y...> 
wrote:
> Me:
> > 
> ...aren't some of our worst 
> fears the "monster in the closet" stuff from our youth?... Which 
> leads me to ask, Is the worst experience of Harry's life the 
> actual "witnessing" of his parents' death?  He was a baby - how 
much 
> could he have actually comprehended what was going on?  Sure, he's 
a 
> wizard, and sure the moment may have been branded into his 
> subconscious...  and, my being a muggle and all (still hoping to 
get 
> that Hogwarts acceptance letter, even at age 26...), I don't know 
if 
> some wizards actually can remember coming out of the womb.  I do 
know 
> that my earliest memories do not go as far back as when I was one.  
> Here's what I'm (reluctantly) proposing: Harry's "worst experience" 
> is not the actual living through witnessing his parents' death, but 
> how he *imagines* that death to have taken place.  ie He doesn't 
have 
> a real/vivid memory of the death, but he does lie awake at night 
> imagining how it all took place, and those thoughts are what haunt 
> him.  Prior to encountering the dementors, he had only had "third-
> person"-esque daydreams about the incident (sort of like in dreams 
> when you are watching yourself in the scene) But the dementors 
tapped 
> into his fear and his imagination, bringing out a vivid, but 
> imagined, replay of the scene.  Hence the reason that he identifies 
> the voices as his parents' and he puts Voldemort's voice (which he 
> has already heard) into the scene.  (btw, I do think that Harry 
> believes that what he hears is the actual scene - not his 
imagination)
> 
Hello everyone, 
      I'm suppose to be doing homework, so I'm just going to post one 
quick thing in response to nobodysrib's post. Although *I* don't 
remember anything from when I was one, I think Harry does. Correct me 
if I'm wrong, but doesn't Harry see the green light before he knows 
that Avada Kedavra gives it off (when Hagrid's telling him the story 
of his parents' death)? Also, and I find this as the most important 
support for my ramblings, he recalls the motorcycle. Now sure, he 
*was* dreaming his "memory" of the motorcycle, but at this point he 
thinks he's a normal person with nothing special about him. When I 
have dreams like that, *I* don't believe them. Also, what are the 
chances he'd have some spontaneous, recurring dream with a flying 
motorcycle in it *before* he finds out he's a wizard? Not only that, 
but he mentions it to the Dursleys, which makes me think it's 
lingering in his mind. Hope that makes sense. ;-)
   ~redandgoldlion~ (who has Harry Potter related dreams every night 
and is *really* hoping that they're memories and that she just 
doesn't know it yet)