Ron is Dumbledore? More ammo

[brinforest]

No: HPFGUIDX 53249


I have to continue with this a little, because I can't stop thinking 
about it. And this is the second time I'm writing this, because the 
first time it was eaten by Ya-(know)-hoo. 

There's a passage in GoF where the little nuances of Dumbledore's 
behaviour look really interesting when read through this theory. 
It's when the trio go to Hagrid's cabin after they run into Rita 
Skeeter, and Dumbledore's there (p. 294):

"Of course we still want to know you!" Harry said, staring at 
Hagrid. "You don't think anything that Skeeter cow - sorry, 
Professor," he added quickly, looking at Dumbledore.

"I have gone temporarily deaf and haven't any idea what you said, 
Harry," said Dumbledore, twiddling his thumbs and staring at the 
ceiling.

"Er-right," said Harry sheepishly. "I just meant-Hagrid, how could 
you think we'd care what that-woman-wrote about you?"

Two fat tears leaked out of Hagrid's beetle-black eyes and fell 
slowly into his tangled beard.

"Living proof of what I've been telling you, Hagrid," said 
Dumbledore, still looking carefully up at the ceiling.


So, what's so interesting about the ceiling? Is it perhaps a very 
emotional moment for Dumbledore, sitting at the table rather 
privately with Harry, Hermione and Ron? (Because how many times are 
we aware of that he has been almost alone with all three of them?) 
Or, looking at it from a slightly different angle, could he be 
worried that, despite an age difference of almost 130 years, a 
certain clever and observant young person might start making 
connections prematurely, looking at two pairs of eyes side by side?

Whew. Now to answer some of your comments,

"grace701" <grace701 at y...> wrote:
> Will Ron die if Dumbledore die?  

No, because Ron is "the cause" and Dumbledore "the result". If 
Dumbledore dies, he will still have been young once, and in this 
case his youth would be Ron. 

"probonoprobono" <probono at r...> wrote:
> There's two things I've 
> found to contradict the theory, though.  
> One is that Dumbledore is described as having blue eyes (light, 
> bright, and sparkling)SS/PS Chp 1. 
> 
> Secondly, in GoF, Dumbledore mentions his own brother, Aberforth. 
> Chpt 24.
> 
> Neither is concrete evidence however. I don't ever remember any 
> mention of the color of Ron's eyes. But, I would say light, bright 
> blue eyes on a flaming red hair boy would be a rather significant 
> trait worth mentioning. 

I think if we're on the right track with this theory, then Ron's eye 
colour is not mentioned in order to balance out the subtle hints, 
the descriptions of their similarities. After all, height, hair 
colour and nose have already been mentioned! The secret is 
practically *out*, no need to shout from the rooftops! :) And the 
crookedness of the nose, well. Even if he is Ron, Dumbledore has 
lived over 130 years we probably still won't learn everything about, 
so I'd say he's had plenty of time to break his nose. :)

> Also, obviously if Ron is really Dumbledore, than the name 
> Dumbledore isn't real and we can guess Aberforth probably isn't 
> either. Which makes me wonder, which of Ron's brothers would have 
> been prosecuted for practicing innapropriate charms on a goat?? 
Fred 
> or George? Albus quips, "I'm not entirely sure he can read, so 
that 
> may not have been bravery." Literally, it wouldn't apply to any of 
> the Weasley boys, but I can certainly see Ron using a joke like 
that 
> at their expense. 

To me, the Aberforth story sounds suspiciously like Arthur and the 
flying car, with the ending thrown just for bluff. But you're right, 
it's one of the less easily adaptable points. And the name Albus 
Dumbledore... Ron, who has gone back in time and realised what has 
to be done, knows that is to be his name; we could also watch out 
for clues in Ron's life that somehow point the same way. Does that 
make sense??

"karenkyla3" <karenkyla3 at a...> wrote:
> 
> Dumbledore says at some point that scars are useful - that he has 
one 
> on his knee(?) that is a map of the London underground.  Any scars 
> there Ron?  =)

His broken leg in GoF - we never heard for sure whether or not there 
was broken skin involved?

"snowwy54" <snowwy54 at y...> wrote:
>(snip) McGonagal could have been Hermione.

Well, you know, that doesn't go down so well with me, because 1) I 
believe McGonagall is EVIL, see post 39470 by Elkins and you will 
too :), and 2) I think it would be more romantic if either Hermione 
followed Ron successfully, and as Dumbledore he's already been a 
widower for decades (Highlander, anyone?), OR the time-trip took 
them apart forever. Yes. I know that would be tragic, but also heart-
wrenchingly beautiful.

I've got one more problem to add. When Dumbledore questions Crouch 
Jr. in GoF, he asks about the Marauders' Map in a way that sounds 
like he doesn't know what it is. If he remembers everything else to 
the second and the tiniest detail, he can't have forgotten that the 
map exists. 

I can't even try to explain that at the moment, simply must get 
sleep. If I can get any in my even-more-obsessed-than-usual state!


Brin