A Portkey to more Portkey theory

Steve bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 6 03:59:11 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53265

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ladyofmisrule2000"
<lorischmidt1 at j...> wrote:
> I realize there are plenty of theories out there as to why Barty
> Crouch, Jr. turns the Triwizard Cup into a Portkey as opposed to
> transforming something Harry would use on a daily basis, like his
> toothbrush.
> 

bboy_mn:
This was just covered recently-

1.) Why not any object? Answer: If Portkeys were easy, everybody would
be doing them. Why use Floo Powerder? Why use brooms? Why not just use
portkeys? There must be a logical reason, and the most obvious logical
reason is because portkeys are not that easy to do.

My personal theory is that Portkeys are a two stage enchaantment. 

First an object must be made portkey-ready. You must go through some
extended process that makes an object able to be a portkey then once
you have accomplished that you must use a relatively advanced
enchantment to program the portkey parameters such as time, touch,
destination, return trip, etc....

So, it is not as simple as Moody sneaking into Gryffindor tower, which
in and of itself is not easy task, and saying 'ALAKAZAM your a
portkey' to Harry's toothbrush. Even if he did, what is to stop Harry
from saying, 'Ron hand me my toothbrush'. In which case, Ron
disappears and Moody's cover is probably blown.

So they need to arrange something that Harry CAN touch that they can
also prevent other people from touching, and at the same time leave an
extended mystery to solve that allows Moody time to get away.

Missing from the Enchanted toothbrush, or whatever-
1.) Opportunity
2.) Stealth
3.) Reliability
4.) Fast Safe Exit
- - - -

> 
> Theory one: Crouch uses the Cup because the Hogwart's staff might
> assume Harry was killed in the course of completing the maze; thus
> masking Crouch's role ...


bboy_mn:

No, we are back to having an object that Moody can get Harry to touch
while at the sametime preventing anyone else from touching. 

Moody is the one person who can act INSIDE the maze without actually
being inside the maze because his magic eye can see through solid
objects. That allows him to follow Harry and the other contestants;
aiding Harry and hindering the others. 

The next step-
Once Harry was gone and Moody was sure everything had gone according
to plan, he was going to, presumably, slip away and rejoin Voldemort.
He could continue his bluff for a while but pretty soon, people would
realize the Moody was the last one to handle the cup, and they would
start to investigate him, so I don't see he him hanging around much
longer.
- - - -

> 
> Theory two: Whoever came up with the idea to transform the Cup
> wanted Harry to be weakened or injured in his trip through the 
> maze because that would make it easier for Voldemort to finish 
> him off. 
> 

bboy_mn:
What? Are you implying that the portkey journey alone weaked Harry, or
do you mean Moody injured and weakened Harry while he was in the maze?

Either way, I don't think so. First, Moody tried to get rid of Cedric
by forcing Krum to curse Cedric with the pain curse. That should have
eliminated both of them, but Harry interferred and stopped Krum
thereby saving Cedric. Next, there is a good chance that Moody
implelled (imperious) the Spider to attack Cedric in a last ditch
attempt to prevent him from getting to the Cup, but once again, Harry
interferred and actually attracted the spider to himself. So Harry
being weak and injured was due to his own 'moral fiber', and not to
efforts on Moody's part.
- - - -


> Questions regarding theory two: Does canon make it clear who 
> authoredthe plan to turn the Cup into a Portkey? ...
> 
> Thanks in advance for helping me sort this one out.
> 
> Lori

bboy_mn:

It makes it crystal clear, Voldemort's plan is to bring Harry to him,
by making sure Harry won the Tri-Wizard's Tournament. Since winning
meant touching the Cup, the logical extention is that the Cup was the
means by which Voldemort planned to get Harry to him. The plan was
alway that the end of the 3rd task would bring Harry to Voldemort
where Voldemort would weaken him with a little torture, then he would
kill him in a fair (ha! ha!) duel.

Don't remember when we had this discussion before, but it was very
recent and lots of people contributed to it. You might want to go back
an check that out. Really, lots of interesting stuff there.

bboy_mm





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