[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore is Ron?

[GulPlum]

No: HPFGUIDX 53345

I've not participated in this thread yet (I find the idea fascinating 
although utterly preposterous but have ZERO arguments to propose against 
it!) :-)

Anne wrote:

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>Perhaps I am just dumb, but I can't wrap my brain around  this 
>"Dumbledore!Ron" theory at all. If I understand this theory correctly, 
>here is the basic timeline:

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>* 1840 - 1945 - Dumbledore grows up, goes to Hogwarts, does a bunch
>of stuff we're unsure of (some of it with Nicholas Flamel), and comes
>back to Hogwarts as a teacher by no later than the late 1930s

One correction: Ron goes back as a 17 year-old (-ish) and thus would have 
appeared in the mid-19th century as a 17 year-old. Assuming the identity of 
a (not otherwise existent?) Albus Dumbledore would probably not have been 
difficult as there was lots of social upheaval at the time. Perhaps he 
hooked up with Nicolas Flamel very quickly and came clean about who he is...

>* 1980 - 1991 Dumbledore is still headmaster at Hogwarts, while Ron
>is growing up in the Weasley household (so Ron is split into two
>people of wildly different ages at the same time in different locations??)

Yes. Why not? Harry and Hermione were in two places at the same time in 
PoA; there's no real reason (in terms of how we understand the T-T to work) 
why they would have had to be close to their original selves (of course, 
they needed to be close for narrative purposes, but that's a different 
matter). Considering one Ron has lived for 150 years or so, then of course 
he'd be vastly older.

[OT for this particular subject: in PoA, H&H go back three hours at 
midnight; they re-live those three hours, so by the time they get to bed, 
it's 3am by their "body clocks": no wonder Harry is too tired to tell Ron 
anything! - strangely enough it's just gone 3am here] :-)

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>* various times during the following few years - Ron and Dumbledore
>are in the same room together and Dumbledore SPEAKS to him!! (near
>end of CoS)
>
>Perhaps I'm not seeing something I should be able to see, but how can
>Ron and Dumbledore be in the same room at the same time and
>acknowledge each other's presence as a separate person if Ron IS
>Dumbledore and Dumbledore knows he used to be Ron???

Why not? Harry2 interacts (though admittedly not verbally) with Harry1 in 
PoA, and Harry1 assumes it's a different person. With ~150 years difference 
in age, Ron has no reason to think of Dumbledore as anything other than a 
respected 150 year-old wizard.

>Unless, of course, this works only because Ron doesn't know yet that he's 
>going to become Dumbledore.

Of course he doesn't. If he did, there'd be no fun in this whole theory. ;-)

>OYYYYY. My head hurts.
>Anne U

--
GulPlum AKA Richard, handing Anne U a selection of painkillers across the 
ether for her to choose whichever takes her fancy, notices the time and 
decides to call it a night...