foreshadowings in CoS and in GoF Weasley and Muggle Protection A Act and LV

karywick karenwickersham at ameritech.net
Mon Mar 10 00:19:56 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53530

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "asandhp" <steinber at i...> wrote:
> > 
> CoS seems to be 90% foreshadowing, and I'll explain a bit about why 
I think so toward the end of this post, but for the meantime - the 
> predictions:
> 
> (large snip)> In CoS we learn: Dobby is in possession of Malfoy 
secrets, and is 
> super-loyal to Harry. Very likely conclusion: They'll go sneaking 
> around Malfoy Manor together to collect clues.


Now My thoughts:

I think that there's some major foreshadowing in CoS that I haven't 
seen discussed here.  I've searched the engine but it's such a pain 
as we all know.
I think that despite all the joking that Mr Weasley's love of Muggle 
plugs and all things electronic is such a joke to most magic people 
there seems to be much more importance to it than Rowling's 
revealed.  It seems like he has been part of raids with other 
departments (not just his department of Muggle artifacts)  -CoS 
American Hardcover Ed Pg 38. "What a night . . .Nine Raids. Nine! And 
old Mundungus Fletcher tried to put a hex on me when my back was 
turned. . . ."  Mr Weasly took a long gulp of tea and sighed. "Find 
anything Dad?" asked Fred eagerly.  "All I got were a few shrinking 
door keys and a biting kettle," yawned Mr. Weasley.  "There was some 
pretty nasty stuff that wasn't my department, though. Mortlake was 
taken away for questioning about some extremely odd ferrets, but 
that's the committee on experimental charms, thank goodness. . ."

Later in Mr Borgin's shop, you hear Mr. Malfoy is afraid of the 
ministry's raids and is trying to unload the "items at home that 
might embarass me if the minstry were to come to call."  And then 
Malfoy says, "There are rumors about a new Muggle Protection Act- no 
doubt that flea-bitten, Muggle loving fool Arthur Weasley is behind 
it--"pg 50-51. 

And at the end Dumbledore says to Mr. Malfoy, "Imagine the effect on 
Arthur Weasley and his Muggle Protection Act, if his own daughter was 
discovered attacking and killing muggle borns . . Very fortunate the 
diary was discovered and Riddle's memory wiped from it,  Who knows 
what the consequences might have been otherwise. . . ." pg 336.

Hmm . . so apparently the whole idea of opening of the Chamber of 
Secrets wasn't necessarily to bring back LV in a memory form or to 
remove Muggle-borns from Hogwarts but to discredit Weasley and to 
repeal this Muggle-protection act of his before it gets passed or 
becomes law.  Did anyone else notice this before?  I've only been 
here for about 4 months some I'm sorry if you discussed it years ago 
and I could't find in in the files.  

So now we get to GoF where the Muggle Protection Act in now a Law and 
the Muggle Baiting incident at the Quidditich World Cup.  After the 
incident you hear that Arthur Weasley is at work a lot the following 
week.    Molly Weasley coments that, "You're father hasn't had to go 
into the office on weekends since the days of You-know-who," she 
said. "They're working him far too hard."  At the conclusion of GoF 
Molly says,  We all know what Fudge is.  It's Arthur's fondness of 
Muggles that has held him back at the ministry for all these years. 
Fudge thinks he lacks proper wizarding pride." pg 711

Hmmm. . . Is she hinting that Fudge is a DE or a muggle-hater?  So 
what did Arthur Weasley do for the MoM back in the days of terror?   
What exactly does his position entail now?  IS there an underground 
part of the MoM that is trying to keep track of LV and his supporters 
by doing raids to find things that might injure or bait muggles they 
might also find those same people that support Voldemort.  What do 
you all think?

Kary





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