Lupin Betrays

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No: HPFGUIDX 53752

I decided to combine the Dress Robes/Sirius/Lupin post and the 
Betrayal post to talk about Lupin.

Pippin wrote in Rowling and Philosophy:
>I think Harry will experience such a betrayal eventually, and of 
>course I see Lupin as the most likely candidate. I don't think that 
>this will undermine the position Rowling is presenting about 
>prejudice but rather permit her to test and amplify it. But that's 
>another post.

Amy Z wrote:
>He had those minutes of thinking he was betrayed by Lupin (no doubt 
>you would call it foreshadowing <g>).

I (Greicy) asked in Dress Robes/Sirius/Lupin:
>>And why hasn't Lupin tried to contact Harry once he's reached 
>>Hogwarts?

Gulplum replied:
>Mainly, plot reasons. That, however, is an unacceptable 
>explanation. :-)  Psychologically, it's perfectly understandable 
>that he might not want to get involved, both for his own good and 
>Harry's. It's clear that Harry doesn't know much about his parents' 
>past, and Lupin could easily come to the conclusion that Harry wants 
>to distance himself from that knowledge, that talking or thinking 
>about his parents is painful for him (which it is). Or, he could be 
>under orders from Dumbledore (again, mainly for plot reasons) :-) 
>not to discuss anything about Harry's and his parents' past 
>unless he's asked a direct question.
 
>Furthermore, Lupin is embarrassed about his lycanthtropic status, 
>and any mention of James's past is inextricably linked with that, so 
>perhaps thinking about those days is painful for *him*. Not to 
>mention that everyone who knew James as a boy sees him in Harry, and 
>I suspect that for all of James's friends, his name has immediate 
>connotations with his death and the dark times.
 
>Overall, I don't have any problem buying Lupin's reluctance to talk 
>to Harry in PoA, although I do have a little difficulty in accepting 
>his silence throughout GoF. Sure, Harry has Sirius to contact if he 
>needs to, but Sirius is still formally an escaped convict. 
>Contacting his former teacher, whose reputation is still fairly 
>intact, would be far more sensible.
 
>My main problem with PoA is Lupin's reluctance to tell Dumbledore 
>about Sirius's Animagus status. Lupin was presumably employed as 
>DADA teacher to keep an eye on Harry and to protect him, and to 
>assist in apprehending Sirius. Keeping silent about the fact that he 
>can transform is a pretty major oversight. He wouldn't have needed 
>to go into detail about how it came about; he could even have been 
>tentative about it and he needed to say was "I think that Sirius 
>might be able to turn into a huge black dog. Be on the lookout for 
>one".
 
>Black had got into the school grounds, attacked the Fat Lady, and 
>even got as far as the boys' dorm. I don't buy Lupin's explanation 
>that Black had done it using Dark Magic. There seems to be a blase 
>attitude that Hogwarts is protected from ingression by any means - 
>Sirius's ability to get through *must* have been down to more than 
>the protections were geared up for, and an Animagus made perfect 
>sense...



Because of the reasons that Gul pointed out, I can't believe that 
Lupin would ever betray Harry.  I should hope that she doesn't 
undermine Lupin's morality and use his betrayal to justify that 
werewolves cannot be trusted.  I, personally, wouldn't appreciate his 
morality being tested at all.  He and Sirius have been through enough 
with the deaths of James and Lily, the feeling of betrayal (Lupin 
thinks Sirius killed James and Lily), then the actual 
realization/confirmation that they were betrayed (Sirius knows it's 
Pettigrew who did betray and helped murder James and Lily; Lupin 
didn't, but later finds out) and Sirius is thrown into Azkaban for 12 
years without ever having a trial.  I think, IMHO, they've been 
through enough.  It's hard to have one of your bestfriends, whom you 
trusted, betray you, but to have two of your bestfriends betray you 
and then your son?  C'mon, that's a bit too much for me.  I don't 
think she'll go down that route for Lupin.  She shouldn't do that to 
Sirius, Harry, Lily and James.  All I see for Lupin, and Sirius, is 
to help defeat Voldemort and be on the lookout for Harry.  Which I'm 
sure Lupin has been doing since Harry's been at the Dursleys.  After 
all, he's part of the old crowd, so I suppose he's stopped by Mrs. 
Figg's once in a while to visit. ;) (Am I making sense or am I 
rambling like GulPlum?)

If Harry is to be betrayed, I say it should be by one of his peers.  
Which, in reality, are only two people whom he is extremely close 
to:  Hermione and Ron.  Although, I want to say Ron, I highly doubt 
it and the only reason I have to back me up is at another post, The 
Rift (in general, nothing specific).  If Ron felt betrayed, maybe 
he'll think it's time for some Karma, some "what goes around, comes 
around."  I worry about what I think of him sometimes.  But my mom 
and I think that history is going to repeat itself, so it has to be 
Hermione or Ron.  I refuse to say Hermione, only because she's my 
favorite and for SHIPping reasons, but maybe she has a thirst to 
prove herself, as Harry, for reasons unknown and is tempted by 
Voldemort with an offer she can't refuse.  (Oh I should bite my 
tongue, I can't believe I said that!)  I'd like to think this 
happens, but she is only doing it to be an agent (to help out Harry 
and Dumbledore) without anyone's knowledge, but her own.  Hermione is 
known to keep secrets, afterall.  Hey maybe that's what Lily did?! 
Which reinforces my "Silly Little Girl" Theory that Hermione and Lily 
have the same personality type.  

Just to add:
I've always wondered what the Sorting Hat told Ron and Hermione.

Greicy, who hopes she hasn't rambled on and feels sorry for her 
feelings towards Ron.